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I am soon to begin training in Judo, which i am greatly looking forward to. Could any experienced judokas suggest how long it will be before i am likely to be confident enough to enter any low-level competitions? or how long it will take for me to be capable of effectively applying the skills in a real situation? I know thats a bit of a stupid question, if anyone could at least tell me how long it took them personally, that would be helpful. cheers
Hello
I am soon to begin training in Judo, which i am greatly looking forward to. Could any experienced judokas suggest how long it will be before i am likely to be confident enough to enter any low-level competitions? or how long it will take for me to be capable of effectively applying the skills in a real situation? I know thats a bit of a stupid question, if anyone could at least tell me how long it took them personally, that would be helpful. cheers
Judo is a great art. THE first martial art I had studied.
I think it is bettter to start off with Judo than Karate.
The other way around, I've seem Karateka have a hard time grasping Judo at first.
It is a good start and will help you if you ever decide to take up other arts.
How long depends on you and your instructor.
For me, we didnt have competitions, as we held competition every day amongst our fellow students.
Hey man, its good that your starting Judo. it will teach you a lot. After the first lesson you will be shown somthing that is practical for the street but the key in being able to do it is practice. Study well, be pateint and you will soon be performing techniques like there programmed in your mind. With competitions, usually after about three months you would have got your body used to judo and able to compete in a beginner type tournament. it may take you longer and if that the case dont be upset. Its good as it means you get some extra practice in. good luck!
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I recently read somewhere that judo is not a very good art for self-defence, due to its sporting nature. I am a bit skeptical about this, is there any truth in the statement?
Yes it's true that there are several martial arts that have the sports aspect such as Judo, Taekwondo, etc. but they all started as a self defense / martial arts before it was made into sports version.
Whether certain arts is effective or not really depends on the application and the practitioner.
Whether certain arts is effective or not really depends on the application and the practitioner.
Well said. Judo could be very effective in self-defense, but a lot depends on how you train and who is instructing you.
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In my opinion the sporting nature makes it better for self-defence as it involves training against a resistant partner. In a real situation you would however have to bear in mind judo rules do not apply
agree with the above statement. Not many other arts train with fully resistant partners so you know exactly what is needed to get a good throw however if there was a situation where you'd need self defence remember to duck or sidestep the attack first. Once the skill level gets to the stage where its natural then it can be used as a defence as the defender can concentrate on what the attacker is doing and look for the opportunity to end the fight
i'd say you'd need a minimum of 3 months trianing to be able to know the rules and enough techniques to be able to find out what works for you. Even if you go into a low level tournament and get beaten in every match its a learning experience. In my experiance randori is completely different to competition fights even though the best fighter fight in tournaments as they would in their club. A lot of people are too nervous about leaving themselves open to attack so go on the defensive.
I was nervous about my first tournament, lost the first fight but then went on to win it as i completely relaxed.
Good choice Serge! As someone else suggested, work with your instructors and other experienced competitors to determine when it would be best for you to start looking to compete yourself.
Training for competition is much different than just training to learn.
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This is a consistent argument on this board, actually: The applicability of your training for real self defense.
In my opinion, arts that include competitive training are MUCH better for self defense than those that do not because of the physical and mental training necessary for competition. To be so good at an art that you can make it work against another "expert" in that art shows a mastery that will be very apparent when you need to use it for real.
Stick with Judo, bro, it will do you very well no worries!
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Joes right in terms of self defense Judo can only help but two things you should remember Gi throws don't work too well on a t-shirt , but also Judo usually doesn't teach any weapon defenses or multiples , In terms of a one on one fight unarmed Its normally very good aslong as you don't try a gi throws and end up holding rags.
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Depends on your progress, my instructor stuck me in a brown belt/ black belt competition after half a years worth of training, got my arse handed to me, but it's the experience that counts really.
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I recently read somewhere that judo is not a very good art for self-defence, due to its sporting nature. I am a bit skeptical about this, is there any truth in the statement?
Depends in the Judo... Olympic/Sport Judo is very ineffective for self-defense compared to traditional judo. Not so much because it is practice as a sport but because in the focus on sports-competition has left out other common judo skills.
Kodokan Judo, also known as Traditional Judo, is a complete system which includes things you'd normally wouldn't see such as striking techniques and limited weapons defense. Whats interesting about it is that you still have all the sparring and randori; the focus of judo is less focused on competition and more focused on self-improvement and self-defense.
Of course in any situation; any training can be both a benefit and hinderence depending on the situation. Remember the older military hand-to-hand combatives where based off of judo to some degree.
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, but also Judo usually doesn't teach any weapon defenses or multiples , In terms of a one on one fight unarmed Its normally very good aslong as you don't try a gi throws and end up holding rags.
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