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Old 02-17-2007, 04:37 PM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1 (permalink)

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Karate Kata's

Heres my list of kata's i can do,

Pinan-nidan

Pinan-godan

pinan-sandan

pinan-shodan

Kyushanku

Knifehandchi (not sure on spelling there)

Chinto.


For anyone interested i'll up a video of any of them, also the karate i do is wadu-ryu (not sure on spelling again)


Feel free to name (or record) your kata's.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY6xqUxBv9U

Its one massive combination of applications. This one is kushanku (yes i did spell it wrong), many see it as a dance which is incorrect. They are named after old japanese masters who used the kata's applications to fight with.
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Great Post rodders,

Here are the Kenpo Forms (Kata)
Note: there are many SETS of which I'm not going to list.

Short 1
Long 1
Short 2
Long 2
Short 3
Long 3 (still trying to master this one)
The following Forms I will learn in the future.
Long 4
Long 5
Long 6
Long 7
Long 8

Below is a video of Long 4 that I found on Youtube,
some believe that Long 4 is the Flagship of American Kenpo.
Long 4 is the next Form I'll learn when I fully understand Long 3

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Wow, that was a really complicated form, good luck with that!
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Wow, that was a really complicated form, good luck with that!
Thanks, I'll need it, even though I already recognize various parts of the Form.

On the other hand, it might take the rest of my life to understand all the aspects of the Form.
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wow thats really interesting, completely different ot our style.

Ours are solid individual moves but yours flow more and seem to have similarity to that of tai-chi. With your kata's are all moves used as applications aswell ?
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wow thats really interesting, completely different ot our style.

Ours are solid individual moves but yours flow more and seem to have similarity to that of tai-chi. With your kata's are all moves used as applications aswell ?
That's a good question and the answer is yes and no.

Short 1, Long 1, Short 2, Long 2 are considered "Dictionary" Forms of Basic Moves (which are simple moves used in techniques but not as complete techniques).

Short 3, Long3, Long 4, Long5, Long6, etc... are considered "Encylopedia" Forms or Technique Forms (which are flowing strings of techniques grafted together).

Each Form (kata) has a different theme and builds upon the previous.

For example:
Short 3 consists of the following techniques:

Destructive Twins,
Crashing Wings,
Twirling Wings (opposite side),
Circling Wing,
Crossing Talon,
Scraping Hoof,
Fatal Cross,
Grip of Death (opposite side),
Locked Wing,
Crossed Twigs,
Wings of Silk,
Conquering Shield,
Striking Serpents Head

(I've also learned that the idea of "techniques" differ greatly between arts/styles or systems of learning)


This post is interesting to me because I like to see examples of other arts, but don't get to see that many. Thanks for the video post!!

If your interested, I'll find a video of a "Dictionary" Form.
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yea that would be really good,

Our kata's don't build upon the previous ones but could be similar. (The pinans for example), Apart from them they are all completely different themes but following the basic wadu-ryu principles
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I found this on Youtube (Long 2) see below:
(keep in mind this is last of the dictionary forms)

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thats really good,, i like the idea of having dictionary and encylopedia to show the rhythm of the kata, its good to see how different styles vary in different areas.
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I'd like to see your video of chinto if you can post it
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What of me specifiaclly ?

heres one off youtube

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Neihanchi Shodan
Neihanchi Nidan
Pinan Shodan
Pinan Nidan
Rohai (heavily influenced by kung fu, if I'm not mistaken. It isn't normally a karate kata)
Basic baton kata (our dojo doesn't have a Japanese name for it, but it probably is Nittanbo Shodan)
Jigen Ryu Ichi (Three variations: Straight back and forth, star, and four directions)
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Sannin227, just a little more info on katas. The point, as I have had it explained to me, is to teach a student how to flow between different moves. This is why there are variations on similar katas (the Neihanchi, for example). They utilize similar moves, but sometimes in different orders, or with different aspects to them. These are practiced ad nauseum until the student's body knows the different moves and what can easily follow them. In that way, the brain only needs to comprehend what should be done next in a basic way, and the body begins to react. It does work, at least for me, although it does not replace more direct fight training.
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