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My Sensei (6th degree black belt) always says that he would just as soon stay a white belt forever. The Okinawans don't really think that the belt matters. They will give anyone a belt, but they're not going to teach them anything.
My point is, depending on where you are going to study, you may simply get a piece of cloth to tie around your waist that's black in color. You may also train for at LEAST three years and really understand the art of karate. Taking out my year of absence I've been training for 6 years fairly consistently and should test for my black belt this summer. Some people get their faster, my two friends reached that rank in 3 years, others take longer, another of my friends took 7 years.
Point of my story: The belt doesn't matter, not one bit. The knowledge matters. The belt doesn't protect you. It doesn't teach you discipline, and it certainly doesn't teach you inner peace. The knowledge and practice teaches you all of that. It's the knowledge that matters. So, slow down and enjoy learning karate. Forget what color your belt is and live in the moment.
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"We do not do karate. We ARE karate." -Kyoshi Perry
Surely it all depends on the person in question as much as the dojo he /she trains at or the sensei who teaches him /her. How hard they are willing to train and how often, physical ability also comes into account.
If you asked the sensei at our school how long it would take for you to get a black belt he would most probaly answer 20 minutes if your walking or 10 if you have a car, many shops sell black belts.
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My Sensei (6th degree black belt) always says that he would just as soon stay a white belt forever. The Okinawans don't really think that the belt matters. They will give anyone a belt, but they're not going to teach them anything.
My point is, depending on where you are going to study, you may simply get a piece of cloth to tie around your waist that's black in color. You may also train for at LEAST three years and really understand the art of karate. Taking out my year of absence I've been training for 6 years fairly consistently and should test for my black belt this summer. Some people get their faster, my two friends reached that rank in 3 years, others take longer, another of my friends took 7 years.
Point of my story: The belt doesn't matter, not one bit. The knowledge matters. The belt doesn't protect you. It doesn't teach you discipline, and it certainly doesn't teach you inner peace. The knowledge and practice teaches you all of that. It's the knowledge that matters. So, slow down and enjoy learning karate. Forget what color your belt is and live in the moment.
My Sensei (6th degree black belt) always says that he would just as soon stay a white belt forever. The Okinawans don't really think that the belt matters. They will give anyone a belt, but they're not going to teach them anything.
My point is, depending on where you are going to study, you may simply get a piece of cloth to tie around your waist that's black in color. You may also train for at LEAST three years and really understand the art of karate. Taking out my year of absence I've been training for 6 years fairly consistently and should test for my black belt this summer. Some people get their faster, my two friends reached that rank in 3 years, others take longer, another of my friends took 7 years.
Point of my story: The belt doesn't matter, not one bit. The knowledge matters. The belt doesn't protect you. It doesn't teach you discipline, and it certainly doesn't teach you inner peace. The knowledge and practice teaches you all of that. It's the knowledge that matters. So, slow down and enjoy learning karate. Forget what color your belt is and live in the moment.
Nice post.
I wonder is your teacher was all of a sudden tell everyone to turn in their belts, there will be no more belt ranking, i wonder how many will stay?
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
Surely it all depends on the person in question as much as the dojo he /she trains at or the sensei who teaches him /her. How hard they are willing to train and how often, physical ability also comes into account.
If you asked the sensei at our school how long it would take for you to get a black belt he would most probaly answer 20 minutes if your walking or 10 if you have a car, many shops sell black belts.
im keeping that quote thanks.
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My gas contains more useful martial knowledge then Ashida Kim's books.
My guruma is better than my grammar
"My left hand is made out of Iron my right out of steel if one don't get you the other one will"
My point. The belts are more important than the training in many cases.
Hey, but dont misunderstand me, if belts are a motivational tool to keep kids in, so be it.
That's why our belt tests are always three months apart, with "stripe testing" in between. It keeps the kids working toward something. Each month if they have been working hard they get a black stripe on their belt (a piece of tape) and then the week before the belt test they get their 3rd black stripe and they must turn in an "intent to promote" form signed by their teacher and a parent saying that they've been a good kid. That gets them their red stripe (another piece of tape). The kids think of the belt as super important, but the belt itself, to the instructors, is really not that big of a deal. I've heard that some schools will NOT allow a student to take class if they've forgotten their belt. Our philosophy is that it's more important for the student to be in class, but we do encourage them to learn responsibility for making it their job to remember their belts and uniforms.
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I heard a parable that sounded almost exactly like this one once. It really has no ending though, so you have to take from it what you will:
A young man went to an old Karate master and asked "Master, my father is extreemly ill. His dying wish is for me to become a blackbelt in karate. If I train really hard every other day, how long will it take to achieve blackbelt?" The old Master replied "If you train really hard? Every other day? Three years." The young man was discouraged and walked away in a huff. Two days later he returned and asked "Master, if I train really hard EVERY DAY, how long would it take to achieve a blackbelt?" The masters reply: "If you train really hard? Every day??? 7 years." The young man was even more discouraged and stomped off. A week later, the young man returned and asked "Master, if I train really hard, train every day, live with you and train all day at the dojo, how long will it take to achieve a blackbelt?" The masters reply: "If you train really hard? Every day? live with me?? train every day all day?? Why, it would take you 30 years!" The young man looked down and said "Yes sensei", and walked into the dojo. Within 3 years, the man had attained the rank of blackbelt. There are no short cuts.
Working on the theory of it takes 3 years then the little fella in the above video could be a black belt before he is 8.
Is that a good or a bad thing?
He has dedication application stance and a hunger to learn when it comes to Karate but he doesnt understand the true meaning of karate but thats mainly due to his young age.
whats your thoughts on potential 8 year old black belts?
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I have always been a bit sceptical of Karate, and have never seen it as a worthy martial art. However resently i have been convinced to start studying Karate and i am worried that i may have to spend years studying before i can achieve the status of black belt.
I would like to achive a high grade in the art and am willing to put 100% effort, and spend hours every week training, for fitness and techniques.
How long would you expect it to take to reach a black belt in this art, considering the huge amount of effort that will be put forward?
Thanks!
Belts mean nothing, that includes the black belt.
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Originally Posted by Intercepting fist
well the reson i ask is becasue i am aiming to become a very strong all round fighter and i wish to use many different styles and arts together as one, this is why i wish to study karate. If i wanted to specialise in it then i would train and study very differently.
ahh you actully want to attain skill, in the art, thats a fair aim, but the time it will take is highly subjective to your own training and your instructor.
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I would be going for my blackbelt in November if i weren't leaving, and i've been doing it for 6 years.
thats a fair time to get through the kyu grades.
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Originally Posted by Suzy
My Sensei (6th degree black belt) always says that he would just as soon stay a white belt forever. The Okinawans don't really think that the belt matters. They will give anyone a belt, but they're not going to teach them anything.
My point is, depending on where you are going to study, you may simply get a piece of cloth to tie around your waist that's black in color. You may also train for at LEAST three years and really understand the art of karate. Taking out my year of absence I've been training for 6 years fairly consistently and should test for my black belt this summer. Some people get their faster, my two friends reached that rank in 3 years, others take longer, another of my friends took 7 years.
Point of my story: The belt doesn't matter, not one bit. The knowledge matters. The belt doesn't protect you. It doesn't teach you discipline, and it certainly doesn't teach you inner peace. The knowledge and practice teaches you all of that. It's the knowledge that matters. So, slow down and enjoy learning karate. Forget what color your belt is and live in the moment.
Working on the theory of it takes 3 years then the little fella in the above video could be a black belt before he is 8.
Is that a good or a bad thing?
He has dedication application stance and a hunger to learn when it comes to Karate but he doesnt understand the true meaning of karate but thats mainly due to his young age.
whats your thoughts on potential 8 year old black belts?
Simple. Kids that small should never get a black belt of any sort.
Black belt in Karate
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