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Old 07-10-2006, 04:21 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Belt system in Karate

What kind of belt system do they have in Japanese Karate?

I'm familiar with the Korean styles but not much with the Japanese.

I think they start with white and go all the way up to black, but what do they have in between? How many different colors? Do they incorporate stripes?
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:31 PM   #2 (permalink)

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I can only speak for the system I work in now. It's quite similar to Shotokan also I believe.

The colors go White, Yellow, Orange, Green, Purple, Brown (3 stripes or degrees), then Black.

Some other schools that I've observed have some differences with the order of the colors, and some use other colors, like blue, but all of the ones I've ever seen (which is not a huge amount mind you) use Green, Brown, Black or Purple, Brown, Black.

Any stripes I've had to deal with were always in the upper ranks. (Brown, and sometimes whichever rank was just below it.)

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Sounds very similar to Korean styles.

What does this mean? Brown (3 stripes or degrees)
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What I mean about three degrees or stripes is that when you have a brown belt, it is akin to a black belt. There are levels of being a brown.

In my current school, you start as a 3rd degree brown with 3 white stripes around the end of the left tail of your belt, and with each test work you way down to a 1st degree (one stripe) and then test for Shodan.

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That's very interesting. So, you start with stripes and work you way down to less or no stripes.

All other styles I know of adds stripes.

Which style of Karate does your school teach?
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I know what you mean about gaining stripes. My first school did it that way. You started as a 1st degree, and worked up to a 3rd degree.

My current school teaches Shudokan. It's an Okinawan style. I don't know....maybe that's the way that it's done there.

Our school is part of a group called the C & S self defense association. (there is a website if your bored with time on your hands ) It's csselfdefense.org My school is the Sachems school.

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I know what you mean about gaining stripes. My first school did it that way. You started as a 1st degree, and worked up to a 3rd degree.

My current school teaches Shudokan. It's an Okinawan style. I don't know....maybe that's the way that it's done there.

Our school is part of a group called the C & S self defense association. (there is a website if your bored with time on your hands ) It's "csselfdefense.org". My school is the Sachems school.

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It makes sense if it's based on Kyu/Dan Ranking adopted from Judo.

Kyu counts down and Dan counts up.

Hachikyu
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Sankyu
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Shodan
Nidan
Sandan
Yodan
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Rokudan
Shichidan
Hachidan
Kudan
Judan (there can be only one, he is immortal!!!!)

That's just Japanese for counting 1 to 10.
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That's just Japanese for counting 1 to 10.
I would continue, but I'd have to take my shoes off.
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Different styles do different belt colors. It all depends on the style, system, or organization.

When I did karate, the ranks went like this:
White, (White with yellow stripe for kids only), Yellow, Orange, Green, Green with blue stripe, Blue, Blue with brown stripe, Brown, Brown with black stripe, Black (and its various degrees).

In many respects, it is all very similar to the belt system in Tae Kwon Do (since, if memory serves me correctly, the Koreans started off with a Japanese belt system, then changed it to accomidate their arts just as Karate adapted the belt system from Judo).
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Hachikyu
Shichikyu
Rokkyu
Gokyu
Yonkyu
Sankyu
Nikyu
Ikkyu
This also looks like its just counting down from 8 with some modifier (-kyu) I don't know on the end.

This is very similar to the Tae Kwon Do belt system of counting down from 10 for colored belts and then up to 9 for black belt degrees.
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In many respects, it is all very similar to the belt system in Tae Kwon Do (since, if memory serves me correctly, the Koreans started off with a Japanese belt system, then changed it to accomidate their arts just as Karate adapted the belt system from Judo).
the very first tae kwon do place i went to did it that way
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BJJ takes its belt structure from the Japanese. We use white, blue, purple, brown, black
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Chapel, we use the word "kyu" separate from the numbers, so it is something of a rank, with the lower the number, the better you are.
Aside from bow and the number nine, kyu also means "ball" or "globe", and my wife wonders if it might be sphere, which contracts as you gain ability.
As a side note on this topic, there is a story about the origin of the belt system. In the beginning, there was no real system. All a student started with was his gi (uniform for those who didn't know). Of course, the gi included a belt. Everything started white. As the student learned, his gi would fall apart and he would replace it. The belt, however, was sturdier, and would survive such treatment. But continuous use built up dirt in the fabric, until the belt eventually turned black (or dark grey). In this way, one could judge the capabilities of a student by how used his belt looked.
Lastly, I would like to add that traditionally, there is one last belt in karate; white. Once you have completed everything, and have become a complete master, you are entitled to wear a white belt. I believe that this is linked to Buddhism, in which to become truly enlightened, you have to forget everything, and become as a child.
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