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Old 09-12-2007, 12:21 AM   #16 (permalink)

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sorry mister , but a fight is a fight it never be parted . so if he learnt how to block and if he put a block will he lose a point ?!!!!!!!!!
if he put a block and give a counter attack his chances to win a point will be doubled .
and the sparring stance will be ur stance evry time u get ready to fight because ur body will get used of lowing down ur hands every time u kick .
Oh no, your right man. What I was explaining was what and why they were doing it. In my experiences I still block every time I spar, but in certain sparring matches (such as the olympics) they tend to completely drop the hands for some unknown reason. Also yes your sparring stance is the stance you get into when you fight. I didnt see anything wrong with their stances (I will have to watch it again to be 100% sure) but from what I remember the karate kid's stance was very good and I dont really remember the shaolin kids stance very clearly.

But I agree w/ you about the hands thing... I dont know why they do that.
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The hands drop as the body is naturally trying to regain balance
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Right, but what Im talkin about is I've seen fights when they never raise their hands they just let them hang there and maybe move for some speed. Here is a link to the olympic fights I speak of ---> YouTube - Olympic Tae-Kwon-Do Sparring (This is also one of my fav tae kwon do vid)
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Right, but what Im talkin about is I've seen fights when they never raise their hands they just let them hang there and maybe move for some speed. Here is a link to the olympic fights I speak of ---> YouTube - Olympic Tae-Kwon-Do Sparring (This is also one of my fav tae kwon do vid)
Right, because it is a contest of kicking being the best scored and more dramatic. When the legs go up in such a fashion, they can dual as a block, especially on the torso leaning.
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sir martial man i disagree here cause the balance came from the firm foot .

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Right, but what Im talkin about is I've seen fights when they never raise their hands they just let them hang there and maybe move for some speed. Here is a link to the olympic fights I speak of ---> YouTube - Olympic Tae-Kwon-Do Sparring (This is also one of my fav tae kwon do vid)
sir majis noone could never say that the TKD had bad kicks but it had bad timing and bad sparring stance and as i said before i seek what happens in real . so as u could see they do double kicks and tefreegy tetshagi yabitshagi and te yabitshagi but no real matters except some situations the knockout each other so its for me such a big mess - and this my own opinion trying to not be aggresive but to be relastic -

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Right, because it is a contest of kicking being the best scored and more dramatic. When the legs go up in such a fashion, they can dual as a block, especially on the torso leaning.
i don't agree with points i agree with knock outs
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sir martial man i disagree here cause the balance came from the firm foot
No man, the balance from the arms is a counter weight. To keep the body from tipping over.
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No man, the balance from the arms is a counter weight. To keep the body from tipping over.
Completely agree. If you are not taught this, then someone isnt teaching you right.
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No man, the balance from the arms is a counter weight. To keep the body from tipping over.
congrats with ur green first . i'll prove it cam from the firm foot and the waste place in my video . and u'll find me reasonable just wait for my video
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Completely agree. If you are not taught this, then someone isnt teaching you right.

Yes, I emphatically agree. They are not concerned about the hands up as they are trained as I said;

because it is a contest of kicking being the best scored and more dramatic
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sir majis noone could never say that the TKD had bad kicks but it had bad timing and bad sparring stance and as i said before i seek what happens in real . so as u could see they do double kicks and tefreegy tetshagi yabitshagi and te yabitshagi but no real matters except some situations the knockout each other so its for me such a big mess - and this my own opinion trying to not be aggresive but to be relastic -

i don't agree with points i agree with knock outs
Sorry didnt make this all one post. Anyways, TKD is a realistic MA, I dont see how you see it as unrealistic, you've basicly just said that Tae Kwon Do isnt an MA period. Instead its just a sport like basketball. Secondly how do you see the TKD's sparring stance to be bad, I am not being aggressive just curious. Also you said it has bad timing? That GREATLY depends on the person... not the MA its self.

And in the real world, your not going for either points nor knock outs. So saying you go for real then saying you agree with knock outs... I see how thats more realistic but that is over doing it. You dont train so you can knock someone out you train to have self discipline and be able to walk away instead of fight... but if you must fight you use as much force needed to end the fight. And knocking someone out is rarly needed to end it. I suppose it can end it w/ less damage, but it also might cause internal damage to the brain blah blah blah... anyways, those are my thoughts.

Side Note: Also you do understand that a kick can have about three times as much power as a punch right? So when kicking you only have one leg on the ground... and yes it can be swept, but go ahead and try, leave you head open to my knock out kick. The hand are their to keep your balance when your kicking.

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Points.....any training routine is that of which its going to be used under specufic conditions.
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well i was making it a surprise but i have say it my next video's topic is (("fighting stances"in comparing of martial arts)) i'll descripe all the fighting stances i have learnt explaimimg the differences supported with pictures about every fighting stance .
and we do learn how to hunt a nice timing in full attack and which kick or punch would work as a counter attack and its time of being an counter attack we are really studying the art of fighting not the way of fighting . and again i'm saying that the balance came from waist and firm foot . not the threw of the hand . as i could see in the video u have sent me most of the tkd championers fall on the ground with out being touched from the opponent . they falled when they were reatriting or attacking even when they threw there hands so where is ur theory martial man . it is hard to describe how u control ur balance with ur firm foot and waist but it will be easy to make it and u see it so i need patience from u . i need u to just wait and i'll prove it .
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Martials theory through the video I sent wasnt proven. They didnt throw their hands for balance they rushed alot of their techniques for scoring purposes... thats once again not a good example of what we were trying to say about your hands helping with balance... and to keep balanced you have your hands up... not to your side like the TKD olympic people were doing.
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well i was making it a surprise but i have say it my next video's topic is (("fighting stances"in comparing of martial arts)) i'll descripe all the fighting stances i have learnt explaimimg the differences supported with pictures about every fighting stance .
and we do learn how to hunt a nice timing in full attack and which kick or punch would work as a counter attack and its time of being an counter attack we are really studying the art of fighting not the way of fighting . and again i'm saying that the balance came from waist and firm foot . not the threw of the hand . as i could see in the video u have sent me most of the tkd championers fall on the ground with out being touched from the opponent . they falled when they were reatriting or attacking even when they threw there hands so where is ur theory martial man . it is hard to describe how u control ur balance with ur firm foot and waist but it will be easy to make it and u see it so i need patience from u . i need u to just wait and i'll prove it .
Let me see if I can explain. I am not saying by them dropping their hands they ARE getting BETTER balance. I am saying that it is a natural reflex to drop them as a method in an ATTEMPT to REGAIN balance.

The balance from the arms is (TRYING) a counter weight. To keep the body from tipping over. WHICH, as I stated is not proper teaching/training
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Martials theory through the video I sent wasnt proven. They didnt throw their hands for balance they rushed alot of their techniques for scoring purposes... thats once again not a good example of what we were trying to say about your hands helping with balance... and to keep balanced you have your hands up... not to your side like the TKD olympic people were doing.
i think they are not just tkd people they are the championsers of TKD so they must be the elite as i think. try to search a video that proves ur theory and i'll wait for it to make my own video and to prove mine . and we are here seeking to share information and experiance so u r more than welcomed to prove ur theory as i said before (( it is not to fall down , the shame that u couldn't stand up stronger ))
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