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Old 09-12-2007, 07:32 PM   #46 (permalink)

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I was discussing things fairly and honestly. I was just trying to get what you were saying, sorry if it came off rude ><. Ok so let me see if I get what your saying. You think TKD gives signs of when they are going to attack yet Muay Thai gives even more signs than TKD? If thats right then here is my opinion. Its unfair to say the MA TKD is not "nontelegraphic" because every form of martial art telegraphs their movement to a point.

However, its the martial artist that can see this. So the more trained you are the easier it is to see what the opponent is going to do. It seems like you are generalizing entire MA's instead of the Martial Artist him/herself. I say this alot because I know its true, but each martial artist is different and some are better than others, therefore, you cant say one MA is more telegraphic than another (I know its your MA's opinion that they are, but this just how Im seeing what your saying) Also like I said the reason some things look more telegraphed than others is because of that specific martial artist. This can be a fake or he just doesnt know how to conceal his movements. Anyways, I know you will have something to say about this so I wont explain further and just wait for what you have to say.
to be honest i'm really interested with discussing u , cause u r really great and u seek to be good martial artist .
now let me say what u are waiting for . But in the first i'd like to ask u something and please answer honestly " is this the first time to here this word(nontelegraphic) ? and is this the first time u notice this theory ?"
now i'll tell u what i seek after ur answers just answer in saying yes or no i don't need many explainings .
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:37 PM   #47 (permalink)

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to be honest i'm really interested with discussing u , cause u r really great and u seek to be good martial artist .
now let me say what u are waiting for . But in the first i'd like to ask u something and please answer honestly " is this the first time to here this word(nontelegraphic) ? and is this the first time u notice this theory ?"
now i'll tell u what i seek after ur answers just answer in saying yes or no i don't need many explainings .
I've heard it many times over my years. And yes I know what it means. If Im misinterpreting what your saying its because I cant understand some of your sentences, but your english is very good dont get me wrong. ^_^ But I would love to talk with you too you seem to want the same things I do!

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Old 09-12-2007, 08:27 PM   #48 (permalink)

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Ok so let me see if I get what your saying. You think TKD gives signs of when they are going to attack yet Muay Thai gives even more signs than TKD? If thats right then here is my opinion. Its unfair to say the MA TKD is not "nontelegraphic" because every form of martial art telegraphs their movement to a point.
first i don't agree to be telegraphic for a certain point and atually i think u haven't get my theory . " being nontelegraphical is to not make ur opponent notice ur next move "

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However, its the martial artist that can see this. So the more trained you are the easier it is to see what the opponent is going to do. It seems like you are generalizing entire MA's instead of the Martial Artist him/herself. I say this alot because I know its true, but each martial artist is different and some are better than others, therefore, you cant say one MA is more telegraphic than another (I know its your MA's opinion that they are, but this just how Im seeing what your saying) Also like I said the reason some things look more telegraphed than others is because of that specific martial artist. This can be a fake or he just doesnt know how to conceal his movements. Anyways, I know you will have something to say about this so I wont explain further and just wait for what you have to say.
i'm a beginner man do u know how a beginner says to a championer u r telegraphical with ur attack so it is easy to block urs . i think u have read my history with martial arts so without full attack i have never been this man who talks about theories as i do now .
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first i don't agree to be telegraphic for a certain point and atually i think u haven't get my theory . " being nontelegraphical is to not make ur opponent notice ur next move "
Aw ok... Your just not understanding the english double negative. When I said, "Its unfair to say TKD's not "nontelegraphic"" what I was saying was... Its not fair to say that TKD is telegraphic. I completely understand what nontelegraphic means man, we are just having a language barrier going on ><
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please could u explain mor so i can judge on ur theory honestly whether it was right i believe it or wrong so i try to convince u with my theory .
I dont need to convice you of my theory or vice versa. I have no theory as I was just making and generalized post. If you go back and read what I had posted, you may understand.
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I dont need to convice you of my theory or vice versa. I have no theory as I was just making and generalized post. If you go back and read what I had posted, you may understand.
i got ur point but i'm trying to say that we are trying to control the natural reflex and natural instinct .
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i got ur point but i'm trying to say that we are trying to control the natural reflex and natural instinct .
Controling natural reflex and instincts, could have undesirable effects.
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Controling natural reflex and instincts, could have undesirable effects.
i think i lose my hand control in fly kicks but any other kick on the ground i can control my hand to defend myself well.
actually i don't bellieve in fly kicks.
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i think i lose my hand control in fly kicks but any other kick on the ground i can control my hand to defend myself well.
actually i don't bellieve in fly kicks.
But what is the extent of control?

For better technique?

For calmer mind?


"Fly" kicks, as you put are those jumping types?
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But what is the extent of control?

For better technique?

For calmer mind?


"Fly" kicks, as you put are those jumping types?
yeah for better tech and for calmer mind
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A show boat is a flashy bat that serves no purpose but to display.

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