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well in short is very hard Okinawan karate style. witch focuses quite a bit on hands as well as feet, from what ive seen. and has reputation for having insane , out of their mind instructors.
Well, the only difference between exhaling while you strike and yelling when you strike is the volume. So I don't think it would make that much of a difference.
That is, as long as you aren't doing the 'teeth hissing' breath every time you strike in a form. That just irritates me for some reason.
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That hissing is exactly what I was referring to...I just couldn't think of a way to describe it.
I wasn't suggesting not breathing, but by making when you exhale noisy makes it obvious when you are inhaling. When I do my kata I don't hold my breath until a kiai, I just doing exhale loudly on every single move.
The main thing I was trying to get at was the fact that noisy exhalation, in my opinion, does more harm than good in a fight.
The volume of breathing out will vary depending on the amount of muscle exertion. It is easy to talk about controlling your breath and so on but, I don't think that in a fight it is that easy at all. In Kata and in point sparring you can work those kind of things but, thats not real fighting.
Back to the subject, I heard kind of something weird that Shorin
Ryu was the Japanese way of saying Shaolin and that the art is based on Shaolin wushu but, I highly doubt this. Anybody else hear that?
The volume of breathing out will vary depending on the amount of muscle exertion. It is easy to talk about controlling your breath and so on but, I don't think that in a fight it is that easy at all. In Kata and in point sparring you can work those kind of things but, thats not real fighting.
Where ias was going with;
Besides, in a real fight, breathing hard is going to happen...ssssssssssssssssss
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Back to the subject, I heard kind of something weird that Shorin
Ryu was the Japanese way of saying Shaolin and that the art is based on Shaolin wushu but, I highly doubt this. Anybody else hear that?
I heard that also, but there is no such thing as Shaolin Wushu, esp in that era.
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From what I have seen it is an import of crane kung fu, with tiger elements added. If you put crane kung fu practiioner and Okinawan karate practitioner side by side and have them show what they do it is amazing the similarities. I really doubt that is coincidence.
From what I have seen it is an import of crane kung fu, with tiger elements added. If you put crane kung fu practiioner and Okinawan karate practitioner side by side and have them show what they do it is amazing the similarities. I really doubt that is coincidence.
It is not (a coincidence) given the history of Okinawan arts.....
In response to sirdarksol's comment about the breathing in the Shorin Ryu system, many Shorin Ryu styles use only a kiai during kata for a very practical purpose. It gets all the air out of the lungs. During kata it helps develop this technique so that when the practitioner needs to use a kiai, such as when they are hit or fall, there is no air in the lungs. If you are holding your breath when you get hit, or hit the ground...it hurts a hell of a lot more than if you exhaled.
Also, in my particular style most of the higher ranked black belts tend to think that the breathing on every move in a kata is just silly. Why would you let your opponent know when you are inhaling? Holding your breath while getting hit is one thing, but inhaling while getting hit is about 50 times worse.
Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that sirdarksol is correct in saying that many Shorin Ryu practitioners only use a kiai rather than the excessive (in my opinion) breathing of other styles, however it's not that Shorin Ryu has abandoned the importance of breathing, we just found a different way to do it.
We are taught to exhale when getting struck. I would think that even holding your breathe would be almost as painful as inhaling.
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Getting struck while inhaling can cause your diaphram to spasm, making it very difficult to breath. Exhaling pushes the air out and tightens the muscles in the torso, keeping this from happening. CMA have this exhalation also, but not as a kia or kip.
Please explain Shorin Ryu (Okinawan) karate
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