This is the most impressive move i have come across
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Sorry, I thought it was self defense of some sort. I mean if its Olympic TKD then you expect the hands to be down. Just seemed to me, with the shots these guy were taking that someone would get the idea to get thier hands up.
You do have a point there... Maybe the prevailing thought is that it is better to be highly offensive and not worry about defense at all? Not sure. What I know about Shotokan competition rules can be comfortably inscribed on the business end of a pin.
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You do have a point there... Maybe the prevailing thought is that it is better to be highly offensive and not worry about defense at all? Not sure. What I know about Shotokan competition rules can be comfortably inscribed on the business end of a pin.
My experience with Shotokon competition is the same. It looked like they were doing demoes and such so I assumed the uke was taking a natural fighting stance. When I saw so many taking un-natural fighting stances it threw all kind of alarm bells. And before someone asks, my definition of an un-natural fighting stance is one that practically begs to be run over ( or thrown )or hit in the face.
A little guy could probably do it against a larger guy when we are talking within reason. I wouldn't expect your son to do it against someone like Triangle (I only bring you up because you have stated that you are a bigger guy in the 'rolling against big guys' thread) or any full grown adult. Also, obviously, bringing someone to the ground does not always end the fight.
The other problem with the technique is if your opponent is quick. I have crazy feet which are pretty decent at getting under me. So, if someone tried to do that too slow on me, odds are I would still be standing.
HOWEVER, I do believe that this technique has an important moral behind it: if something doesn't work, don't stop! Instead, transfer into something different. Here, the punch doesn't work so he immediately steps behind and brings his arm around to try to do a sweep. When fighting there should always be a reversal in the back of your mind. This is why people have often compared ground games to chess matches as they very often are one by the person who stays in control longest instead of the person who reacts fastest and gets in a good solid shot.
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A human being in the relative height and weight of Tom Cruise... well, he would have a tough time doing this against a fully resisting opponent, but I am sure that with enough practice against them it is fairly possible.
A human being in the relative height and weight of Tom Cruise... well, he would have a tough time doing this against a fully resisting opponent, but I am sure that with enough practice against them it is fairly possible.
I agree. Cruise looses on all accounts here too.
As for the move being effective against someone of a larger disposition....Well....You say "against someone resisting". Yes, if they know whats coming, and know to resist against it, then it would be difficult to pull off. However, not many people are expecting that specific move. If they are, then you are practicing whats called "known to known", and the cure for it is to add something unexpected, say an extra punch to an unprotected target or something.
The stance is reflecting the traditional nature of the tournament. many schools deviate from the traditional hands down wide stance, and endorse a much more practical street stance. most schools i have seen teach both traditional and "Street applicable" sparring.
either that or these guys are just trying to break their opponents hands against their faces, and thus end the fight.
I know i am a noob but i have watched tons of videos on youtube and this is the one video thats made me truly go WOW. I suppose its not even a difficult move as such but it definitely does the job. I think i like it so much because no matter how many times i watch it i still cant see it coming. It would definitely work in a street fight would it not?
All teqniques work in the street. The circumstance dictates
This is the most impressive move i have come across
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