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Old 10-12-2009, 10:31 PM   #16 (permalink)

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It's horrifically insane what children are capable of, just gos to show that you can go really far if you are born into something
Assuming all that is true, surely you're not suggesting a child barely past toddler stage is capable of black-belt performance.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:33 PM   #17 (permalink)

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Double post sorry.

I just did a bit of figuring out. My WHITEBELT students of age 6 (youngest I take) know the following moves, or need to before progressing any belts.

Yoi-Dachi (Ready stance)
Zenkutsu-Dachi (Standard Stance)

Age-uke (Headblock)
Soto-ude-uke (Chestblock)
Gedan-Barai-Uke (Lowerbody block)

Mikan-zuki (Front hand jab)
Gyaku-zuki (Rear hand straight punch)

Shu-Zuki-Ichi (First training Kata)

And Combinations A1-D1


... Thats 12....
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:28 AM   #18 (permalink)

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I got a 5 year old son and a 2 year old girl, there is no way in hell I give them a Black Belt until they were in their teens (late). So they'd be mature and knowledgeable and have a full understanding.

Rickson wouldn't promote Rockson (his son) til he turned 18. And he was awesome before then. Too bad about his accident, he would've been one of the greats also.
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Old 10-13-2009, 04:01 AM   #19 (permalink)

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Old 10-13-2009, 09:40 AM   #20 (permalink)

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This is sad, not that she isn't a great kid, but there's more to earning a bb than 15 moves...sheesh! I still ponder about the 4 y/o and how his dad took a tongue lashing from you all...tee hee! lol
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:51 AM   #21 (permalink)

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Not past toddler age of course, what i meant to say was how well children learn and retain knowledge when they are givin a task to preform, like a kata for example. Learning a set of moves
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:18 AM   #22 (permalink)

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Double post sorry.

I just did a bit of figuring out. My WHITEBELT students of age 6 (youngest I take) know the following moves, or need to before progressing any belts.

Yoi-Dachi (Ready stance)
Zenkutsu-Dachi (Standard Stance)

Age-uke (Headblock)
Soto-ude-uke (Chestblock)
Gedan-Barai-Uke (Lowerbody block)

Mikan-zuki (Front hand jab)
Gyaku-zuki (Rear hand straight punch)

Shu-Zuki-Ichi (First training Kata)

And Combinations A1-D1


... Thats 12....
For our 6-12 y/o's we do the following:

1) kyoski-attention
2) yoi dachi-ready stance
3) guarding stance
4) kissame tsuke - jab
5) gyaku tsuke - reverse punch
6) mai geri -front kick
7) chudan uchi uke - inside middle block
8) chudan soto uke - outside middle block
9) jodan age uke - rising block
10) zenkutsu dachi - mind forward stance (also called a front stance)
11) kisu kata
12) know the position of mount
13-15) know 3 guard positions (open, closed, and butterfly)

Our kids know at least 15....BLACKBELTS!!!!!! ALL OF EM! YAY!!!!!

Damn.....And thats just for our WHITE BELTS who are testing to get their first belt.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:44 AM   #23 (permalink)

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the only BB a 4 or 5 yr old should have is the one that says they are indeed successfully potty trained
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:52 AM   #24 (permalink)

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I think thats cool she knows 15 karate moves but she doesn't need her black belt just yet
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:20 PM   #25 (permalink)

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In Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu it's very different. Adult colors go:

White
Blue
Purple
Brown
Black

One cannot achieve blue belt until the age of 16, so many schools will use varying colors between white and blue for kids under 16.

One cannot achieve Black Belt until 19.
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Discipline

I like the idea of student's having to wait for a certain age in order to attain a desired belt, it teaches them discipline and patience, very nice
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:42 PM   #27 (permalink)

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I kinda remember Ernie Reyes Jr was the star of a martial art series for tv back in the 80's. Electric Knight was the title if I am not mistaken.
Here in the States it was called Sidekicks. Cute show.

I think it's interesting (and not a coincidence) that many of these toddler black belts are awarded their rank by family members.

I agree that this kind of crap is bad for the martial arts community as a whole.


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Old 10-13-2009, 12:43 PM   #28 (permalink)

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Not past toddler age of course, what i meant to say was how well children learn and retain knowledge when they are givin a task to preform, like a kata for example. Learning a set of moves
Ah. True. Though at that age, I think it's JUST retention without understanding.
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