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Little bit of vomit just entered my mouth , we don't even let under 12s on the mat because it too tough for them to even do basics and the fitness , I bet this girl can't even pull off 10 pushups. This is the reason TMA gets smacked around (pun intended) by sport MA because you know what - she couldn't compete at a black belt level in SPORT .
GRR however much I love tma sometimes this stuff gets under my gi collar.
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Don't let one bad school or one bad teacher represent the whole traditional martial arts. There are no one governning body for them and anyone can make their own style, and they can make their own rules for who gets blackbelt. This does not mean ALL traditional martial arts are like that.
I'm talking about "tma" as a stereotype to many sport MAist, Hell is just got back from my TMA JJJ session.
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Umm, I believe the article said 15 moves as in katas not moves such as kicks and the like. So in that respect she's got me beat good for her. Although I personally loathe katas with a passion, that is neither here nor there.
While I admire BJJ's stance on only awarding belts based on skill I do find it ridiculous to have age limitations. That kind of defeats the purpose of only promoting based on skill, IMHO.
Also to the poster that said black belt was supposed to represent elite, um, outside of BJJ I dont know a style in which the belt represents actual skill. Hell some people choose a style totally unsuited for them and just last long enough to make rank. For example people take TKD for the exercise and move up the ranks but they suck at simple drills. Hell I know people that have trained for years and still dont pivot correctly on a roundhouse.
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Umm, I believe the article said 15 moves as in katas not moves such as kicks and the like. So in that respect she's got me beat good for her. Although I personally loathe katas with a passion, that is neither here nor there.
While I admire BJJ's stance on only awarding belts based on skill I do find it ridiculous to have age limitations. That kind of defeats the purpose of only promoting based on skill, IMHO.
Well, in BJJ, they count skill as, can you tap most of the people in your class at the same level? So how many twelve year olds do you think could beat a BJJ BB?
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While I admire BJJ's stance on only awarding belts based on skill I do find it ridiculous to have age limitations. That kind of defeats the purpose of only promoting based on skill, IMHO.
Its not only about skill level, at Black Belt you also have to know how to teach and run a class.
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when i read stuff like this nowadays im like whatever. i just stay away from places that have a buncha them running around.
sometimes i do end up training with school kids who are like 9-12 that are black belts....but they been training since they came out of the womb an can actually fight though, at least at their age, height, wieght range.
an its fun training with them and learning things from them.
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My son has been training since he was 7. He's 12 now and isn't a BB yet.....He has not shown any desire to advance recently, so I don't promote him. He hasn't shown a desire to LEARN what he needs to know, so I don't promote him. But he is still required to come to the dojo and assist and train. He isn't READY to be tested, so I don't promote him.
My daughter has been training since she was 6.....She will be 18 at the end of this month. (OMG I'm old! LOL) She tested under my instructor for her BB. Since attaining her 1st dan, she hasn't shown the desire to advance either. Therefore, I have not promoted her in 3 years now. It took her from 6 years old until she was 15 to get her 1st dan.
It is not a good idea to promote your own children IMO. If you do, you may cut them slack you may not have to another student. It really calls upon your own integrity. This guy has no integrity IMO. I don't care if his kid DOES know 15 different "moves". Hell, at BB......Aw nevermind. You all know how I feel.
It is not a good idea to promote your own children IMO. If you do, you may cut them slack you may not have to another student. It really calls upon your own integrity. This guy has no integrity IMO. I don't care if his kid DOES know 15 different "moves". Hell, at BB......Aw nevermind. You all know how I feel.
I agree with you GK.
The next point is probably moot as my dad doesn't do MA, but if he had and had I trained under him, I'm pretty sure he would've made it even harder on me than on anyone else. Not like what the guy mentioned in the OP seemingly did.
I don't have kids so my opinion is purely philosophical but I don't think parents do their kids justice by making things easier for them. You don't learn much if the road is always paved for you.
sometimes i do end up training with school kids who are like 9-12 that are black belts....but they been training since they came out of the womb an can actually fight though, at least at their age, height, wieght range.
i would love for a 9-12 year old black belt to walk into my gym and ask to train....they wouldnt even be allowed near the adults because they couldnt hang for one second lol.
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Its not only about skill level, at Black Belt you also have to know how to teach and run a class.
Exactly Joe, put a 5 year old to teaching class... Get out the crayons and draw. Lol. Mid teens, if mature, are able to teach. Plus, it's cool seeing what they put emphesis on. Cause everyone teaches different.
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Whenever I'm able to open up a TKD School def. no BB for people under 16. In Korea Junior BBs are awarded to those too young which are half red black.
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i would love for a 9-12 year old black belt to walk into my gym and ask to train....they wouldnt even be allowed near the adults because they couldnt hang for one second lol.
that would be funny. some of the kids we occasionally train with are either aspiring olympians or team members. they hang with our training which is hard so they ok. theres adults
who cant hang with our training an would throw up and pass out just from circuit training warm ups before even getting to the technical drills.
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Well at least the kid learned 15 katas to earn a BB. What make me sick is somebody (like a politician) come to officiate an occasion and get an honorary black belt without even learning a single thing in the art. Oh he gets to put on a gi and the black belt on (doesn't even know how to put it on) and get to break a board in front of the crowd at the ceremony. What a mockery!
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, we don't even let under 12s on the mat because it too tough for them to even do basics and the fitness , I bet this girl can't even pull off 10 pushups. This is the reason TMA gets smacked around (pun intended) by sport MA because you know what - she couldn't compete at a black belt level in SPORT . 
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