Ignorance!

[Chad]

Ok so we have all at one point ripped the piss out of JCVDs"worse" films, and everyone of us could reel of a couple of "Chuck Norris Facts" I'd just like to remind everybody that these men were once the top of there chosen MA.


Jeane Claude Van-Dammes' Fight Record(Taken from Wikipedia)

Date Event Opponent Result
1976 European Karate Union Van Oostrum, ToonToon Van Oostrum Win, 1 round KO
1977 Netherlands Kick Boxing Devos, MauriceMaurice Devos Win, 1 round TKO
1978 European Karate Union Strauss, Eric BrunoEric Bruno Strauss Win, 1 round KO[23]
1978 European Karate Union Juvillier, MichelMichel Juvillier Win, 1 round KO
1978 European Karate Union Lang, OrlandoOrlando Lang Win, 1 round TKO
1978 World All Style Leibman, EmileEmile Leibman Win, 1 round KO
1978 World All Style Nollet, CyrilleCyrille Nollet Win, 1 round TKO
1979 World All Style Robaeys, AndreAndre Robaeys Win, 1 round KO
1979 World All Style Piniarski, JacquesJacques Piniarski Win, 1 round KO
1979 World All Style Risberg, RolfRolf Risberg Win, 1 round KO
1979 November World Full Contact Bergman, ShermanSherman Bergman Win, 1 round KO[21][22]
1979 November World Full Contact Diaz, Gilberto (Gil)Gilberto (Gil) Diaz Win, 1 round TKO
1979 November World Full Contact Teugels, PatrickPatrick Teugels Loss, 2 round decision
1980 March European Professional Benamou, Mustapha-AhmadMustapha-Ahmad Benamou Win, 1 round KO
1980 March European Professional Muhammad, Bekim-MoussaBekim-Moussa Muhammad Win, 1 round TKO
1980 March European Professional Heming, Micheal J.Micheal J. Heming Win, 2 round TKO [8]
1980 March Professional Karate Assoc. Verlugels, GeorgesGeorges Verlugels Win, 2 round KO
1980 European Professional Kovac, AndresAndres Kovac Win, 2 round KO
1980 Forest Nationals (Brussels) Teugels, PatrickPatrick Teugels Win, 1 round TKO

[Chad]

Chuck Norris Fight Record
(From Wikipedia)


His record, based on tournament matches, is estimated to be 183-10-2, though some sources list it as 65-5. Norris won an estimated 30 or more tournaments, beating an average of five opponents per tournament. At the New York tournaments, he defeated 12-13 opponents per tournament.

1963: 15th Airforce Judo Tournament, Fairchild Airforce Base, Spokane, Washington, March 22-23, fought as Carlos Norris: Result unknown.
1964: Defeated unknown opponent in Salt Lake City Tournament (debut).
1964: Defeated unknown opponent in semi-finals in Salt Lake City Tournament.
1964: Defeated by unknown opponent in finals in Salt Lake City Tournament.
1964: Defeated Ron Marchini in the finals at the Tak Kubota's All-Stars Tournament in Los Angeles, California by half a point.
1965: Defeated by Tony Tulleners at Takayuki Kubota's All-Stars Tournament in Los Angeles, California.
1965: Defeated by Tony Tulleners
1965: Defeated by Tony Tulleners
1965: Defeated by Joe Lewis.
1965: Defeated Ron Marchini for the Grand Championship of the Winter Nationals in San Jose, California.
1966: Defeated by Allen Steen at the Long Beach Tournament promoted by Ed Parker.
1966: Won the National Winter Karate Championships in San Jose, California promoted by Jim Mather.
1966: Defeated Skipper Mullins.
1966: Defeated Joe Lewis in finals of the Tournament of Champions in New York City.
1966: Won the All-Star Championship Tournament in Los Angeles, California.
1966: Defeated Skipper Mullins.
1967: Won American Tang Soo Do Championship in Stockton, California.
1967: Defeated 11 opponents in elimination matches at the All-American Karate Championships in Madision Square Garden in New York City.
1967: Defeated Hiroshi Nakamura (Japan) in semi-finals of the All-American Karate Championships in New York by points 12-1.
1967: Defeated Joe Lewis for the Grand Championship at the All-American Karate Championships in New York.
1967: Won the World Karate Middleweight Title in Long Beach, California
1967: Defeated Skipper Mullins.
1967: Defeated 11 opponents in elimination matches at the Grand Champion Internationals on August 12, 1967.
1967: Defeated Carlos Bundo at the Grand Champion Internationals on August 12, 1967.

[Chad]

Chuck Norris Fight Record (Continued)

1967: Defeated Joe Lewis by one point at the Grand Champion Internationals on August 12, 1967.
1967: Won All American Karate Championships promoted by Henry Cho.
1967: Won National Tang So Do Tournament in Silver Spring, Maryland.
1967: Defeated by Marcos Solar at Kini K. Wang Tournament.
1967: Defeated Skipper Mullins.
1967: Defeated Skipper Mullins.
1967: Defeated Joe Lewis.
1967: Defeated Arnold Urquidez.
1967: Defeated Victor Moore.
1967: Defeated Steve Sanders.
1967: Won All American Karate Championships.
1968: Defeated Fred Wren in Dallas Tournament. (Norris' nose was broken)
1968: Defeated Skipper Mullins in semi finals in Dallas Tournament.(Norris fought with a broken nose).
1968: Defeated by Joe Lewis in finals of Dallas Tournament promoted by Allen Steen. (Norris fought with a broken nose).
1968: Defeated by Jim Butin in the opening match of a tournament in Silver Springs, Maryland.
1968: Defeated Skipper Mullins in Long Beach, California.
1968: Won the Internationals (Dallas, Texas).
1968: Defeated Louis Delgado.
1968: Defeated by Louis Delgado in West Coast vs, East Coast.
1968: Defeated Theodore Wong in Orient vs. U.S. in New York.
1968: Defeated Louis Delgado on November 24 on points, 101 to 93, to win the World Professional Middleweight Title at the Waldorf Astoria in New York. (Norris suffered a broken jaw)
1968: Draw with George Chalian, on Governor's Island, in New York.
1968: Won All-American Karate Championships in New York defeating 13 opponents.
1968: Won the National Tournament of Champions in Cleveland, Ohio.
1969: Won The Internationals.
1970: Won All Star Teams Championship in Long Beach, California.
1970: Defeated unknown opponent on January 17 at the Long Beach Sports Arena for the U.S. Team Championship. Norris announced his retirement following the match.
1972: Draw with Willie Adams-U.S. Teams Championship

[TKD&JKD]

Chuck fought and beat a lot of the Karate and Kickboxing forefathers. A lot of those names are a virtual whos who of karate.

As far as competitions go I would say Chuck was much more successful. Moviewise I give the edge to JCVD, there aren't many Chuck movies that have withstood the test of time.

[BlackDragon]

Originally Posted by TKD&JKD

Moviewise I give the edge to JCVD, there aren't many Chuck movies that have withstood the test of time.

I've got to agree with that! Bloodsport is a classic in my eyes, as well as kickboxer Oh and The Quest was a darn good movie too. I can go on and on with the Van Damn movies. And they all have that oh so inspiring ending when he dramatically comes back and wins the fight. Makes my heart leap for joy everytime even though I already know who's going to win

[Chad]

Have you guys seen JCVD? That is a good film, but it was because of the acting, because there was almost no fighting.... He got nominated for best actorin Canada Independant films for that one. As compared to "orst Newcomer" in Kickboxer .

[TKD&JKD]

JCVD is a great movie. I thought it was pretty good at showing some of JCVD real life struggles.