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i recently read in a book "the name of which i dont remember" that alot of people go back to okinawa to get in touch with the roots of their style of karate and come back disappointed. it was said in the books that they go there expecting to learn all these crazy moves and what they find are masters of the basics... what do you all think about it?
While karate has a lot of special and complicated movements designed for combat in specific circumstances, the truth of fighting is most of it is a malestrom of violence, confusion and movements changing too fast for anyone to truely think about.
In a fight you will survive better and win more often with a solid, connected and true basic punch, than you will with a hundred full spin right handed kikete over grip heel kicks. etc etc.
There is a reason a good school with real fighting pushes the basics so hard, and there is a good reason masters spend more time discussing, practising and testing the basics than anything else.
Personally I would be thrilled to do a three hour course with Sensei Kawata on just Mai-ashi-Geri, or Gyakuzuki.
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i completely agree Galaktia... when i read that passage i just shook my head in disgrace... the martial arts now adays has just become for show in many places.... i am in the mind frame that if you dont master the basics then you are not truly a master or good martial artist for that matter
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The basics are everything when it comes to fighting. Everything else is great for show and to impress judges at a tournament. However, when it comes to fighting, fear the man who has thrown one punch 1 million times than the man who has thrown one million punches once.
The basics are everything when it comes to fighting. Everything else is great for show and to impress judges at a tournament. However, when it comes to fighting, fear the man who has thrown one punch 1 million times than the man who has thrown one million punches once.
my man.... one of my favorite quotes of all times. but yes i completely agree with what u have said the whole way. the man who has thrown that one punch one million times will be better than the man that has many punches only once in his lifetime
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i dont see how one could be disappointed going to a place like Okinawa to train. i dont do karate but i enjoyed comparing technique and training with the karateka when i was stationed in Okinawa.
they do have solid basics alot of people can learn from. but they do more than just masters of basics from what i seen.
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same here... i would be thrilled at the chance of going to okinawa to train there with higaonna morio sensei... yea i know that they do more than the basics, i just read and was saying that they concentrate more heavily on the basics there then most other places... im not saying that there arent schools there that dont focus alot on the basics or that there are no schools here that do... just that they were disappointed to see that they were more basic oriented there
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I have an opportunity to go to Korea for a month, and train with various Korean masters as well as the Puerto Rican National team. I will have free room and board all I need to pay for is the ticket. I hope I am able to make the trip, going to Korea would be a great opportunity for me to learn more about my art, and to expand my skills.
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Originally Posted by TKD&JKD
I have an opportunity to go to Korea for a month, and train with various Korean masters as well as the Puerto Rican National team. I will have free room and board all I need to pay for is the ticket. I hope I am able to make the trip, going to Korea would be a great opportunity for me to learn more about my art, and to expand my skills.
when are u going?
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when are u going?
If I'm able to go it would be june 6 through July 6. I guess we're going to be put up in college dorms.
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If I'm able to go it would be june 6 through July 6. I guess we're going to be put up in college dorms.
thats cool by then i should be done with my team stint. maybe we can meet up at kukkiwon and train. or maybe you guys might be able to visit my GM's school an train with troops
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"Never stop moving. If you stop moving,you give your opponents openings and you may be killed. If you stop moving, what you are doing merely becomes a technique, not Taijutsu"
Shaka Zulu:
"A man chosen to wield life and death on the battlefield must be an artist, if he isn't, he is simply a murderer."
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Originally Posted by Shinobi_Kokujin
thats cool by then i should be done with my team stint. maybe we can meet up at kukkiwon and train. or maybe you guys might be able to visit my GM's school an train with troops
That would be very cool, I would love to.
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