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Originally posted by complete@Jan 6 2005, 10:55 PM History Buff,
That's a pretty good question. Here is the link to a very detailed Korean Martial Arts lineage, which even crosses over to Japan.
SunTzu,
Do you have any other historical evidence to back this up?
I'm not saying everything on this list is true but before anybody can say it's complete bs you should have something to prove your points.
Perhaps "bs" is a bit strong but let me ask you a question. Do you have historical evidence to prove the origin of the Korean arts? And there lies the problem. The verifiable parts of this chart are the more modern arts. However, the beginning of the chart is questionable. Depending on who you talk to, they all claim that their art were practiced by the hwarangs. Check out this site for another perspective on the history of the Korean arts: http://www.hwarang.org/Ancienthistory.html.
The chart also claims that the hwarang took their martial style to China. It is more like the other way around. Since Buddism started in China and the hwarang philosophies were greatly influenced by Buddism, doesn't it make more since that the hwarangs were influenced by the Chinese?
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Originally posted by complete@Jan 7 2005, 08:47 AM SunTzu,
Do you have any other historical evidence to back this up?
I'm not saying everything on this list is true but before anybody can say it's complete bs you should have something to prove your points.
When it comes to history, unless someone was actually there, it's almost impossible to get the accurate reporting of what exactly happened.
See our explanation on History of Tang Soo Do - "The exact origin of Tang Soo Do, as well as of any of the martial arts in general, is obscure though there are a number of historical theories. However, the most credible and traditional view is that martial arts originated not in any one country but in almost all parts of the globe, as they were needed by primitive people."
I think one important thing for everybody to keep in mind is that there are many different theories out there and you cannot believe everything you read on internet. You have to use your own judgement and do your own homework on the source of the information.
I thought Buddism started in India, not China.......
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Originally posted by Guest@Jan 10 2005, 12:58 AM Perhaps "bs" is a bit strong but let me ask you a question. Do you have historical evidence to prove the origin of the Korean arts? And there lies the problem. The verifiable parts of this chart are the more modern arts. However, the beginning of the chart is questionable. Depending on who you talk to, they all claim that their art were practiced by the hwarangs. Check out this site for another perspective on the history of the Korean arts: http://www.hwarang.org/Ancienthistory.html.
The chart also claims that the hwarang took their martial style to China. It is more like the other way around. Since Buddism started in China and the hwarang philosophies were greatly influenced by Buddism, doesn't it make more since that the hwarangs were influenced by the Chinese?
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" ... Those who win every battle are not really skillful - those who render others' helpless without fighting are the best of all." - Sun Tzu
Originally posted by natasha@Jul 2 2005, 11:18 AM check out hwarangdo.com; that's the official site of the art as it is taught today, and there is a history section.
I saw the history from that site. Who's to say that's the correct version of history? I'm sure there are many others who may not disagree on the some of the origins.
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" ... Those who win every battle are not really skillful - those who render others' helpless without fighting are the best of all." - Sun Tzu
Originally posted by NinjaMaster@Jul 3 2005, 10:32 PM I saw the history from that site. Who's to say that's the correct version of history? I'm sure there are many others who may not disagree on the some of the origins.