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Hmm .. maybe I wasn't that clear. The international organization is ITA (International Taekwondo Alliance)which has, of course, many many schools. The patch you are seeing is the org patch.
Hmm .. maybe I wasn't that clear. The international organization is ITA (International Taekwondo Alliance)which has, of course, many many schools. The patch you are seeing is the org patch.
But if it is a ITA toruney...how do the judges judge failry? Meaning that they done show favoritism?
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
That's a concern for every tournament. You just have to hope that the judges are fair. (This is a reason I don't like competitions.)
What I am saying, in "open" tourneys, there is a panel of judges from different arts. The scoring factor has somewhat control more than the judges, per se'. It is almost the luck if the "draw"
In a close tourney, it would seem that the judges could be biased of another school and score a participant lower. Also, knowing what to "look for" in forms, could dispute a move that may not be to their liking, as they would have knowledge and their own perception of how the move should look like or performed.
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
Last edited by 47MartialMan; 10-24-2007 at 06:29 AM.
What I am saying, in "open" tourneys, there is a panel of judges from different arts. The scoring factor has somewhat control more than the judges, per se'. It is almost the luck if the "draw"
In a close tourney, it would seem that the judges could be biased of another school and score a participant lower. Also, knowing what to "look for" in forms, could dispute a move that may not be to their liking, as they would have know;egde and their own perception of how the move should look like or performed.
I would think that this does happen. I don't see how it could not, as we are human, filled with frailties and imperfections.
Hey, by all means, I am not directing offense to your art/org.
I'm just making some generalizations.
I apologize if I caused any.
no no ... I am not offended. I agree with you. We can only hope that the judges are fair and impartial. I just don't see how they can be if they're watching one of their own students.
In closed tournaments (usually) the Traditional Forms are graded by a)Artistic Expression (how well the techniques are performed) and b)correct format (the form must be done correctly) whereas in OPEN tournaments you are only judged on a)Artistic Expression! I've competed in both Closed and Open tournaments, the truth is there was shady point givers in Both!! Though admittedly most of the Shady point givers were from one particular school in the closed tournaments.. I remember the rest of the Org. called them Bailydrones.. LOL IMO the Forms Competition is easier in Open tournaments, if you make a mistake no one can judge you on that, only your techniques The point sparring is a bit different too.. The ITA (if I'm not mistaken, rules may have changed) do NOT allow punching to the head and points were given as such: 1pt for punch to body, 1pt kick to body, 2pt kick to head, 2pt jump kick to body, 3pt jump kick to head! In most all Open Tournaments point sparring is 1pt punch (to head or body) 2pt for kick (to head or body).
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no no ... I am not offended. I agree with you. We can only hope that the judges are fair and impartial. I just don't see how they can be if they're watching one of their own students.
They watch/judge their own students?
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
In closed tournaments (usually) the Traditional Forms are graded by a)Artistic Expression (how well the techniques are performed) and b)correct format (the form must be done correctly) whereas in OPEN tournaments you are only judged on a)Artistic Expression! I've competed in both Closed and Open tournaments, the truth is there was shady point givers in Both!! Though admittedly most of the Shady point givers were from one particular school in the closed tournaments.. I remember the rest of the Org. called them Bailydrones.. LOL IMO the Forms Competition is easier in Open tournaments, if you make a mistake no one can judge you on that, only your techniques The point sparring is a bit different too.. The ITA (if I'm not mistaken, rules may have changed) do NOT allow punching to the head and points were given as such: 1pt for punch to body, 1pt kick to body, 2pt kick to head, 2pt jump kick to body, 3pt jump kick to head! In most all Open Tournaments point sparring is 1pt punch (to head or body) 2pt for kick (to head or body).
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I've competed in both Closed and Open tournaments, the truth is there was shady point givers in Both!! Though admittedly most of the Shady point givers were from one particular school in the closed tournaments.. I remember the rest of the Org. called them Bailydrones.. LOL IMO the Forms Competition is easier in Open tournaments, if you make a mistake no one can judge you on that, only your techniques 
The point sparring is a bit different too.. The ITA (if I'm not mistaken, rules may have changed) do NOT allow punching to the head and points were given as such: 1pt for punch to body, 1pt kick to body, 2pt kick to head, 2pt jump kick to body, 3pt jump kick to head! In most all Open Tournaments point sparring is 1pt punch (to head or body) 2pt for kick (to head or body). 
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