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Korean Martial ArtsDiscuss Korean style martial arts here - Hapkido, Hwa Rang Do, Jidokwan, Kuk Sool Won, Kumdo, Soo Bahk Do, Tang Soo Do, Tae Kwon Do, Yudo
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Originally Posted by Shinobi_Kokujin
sounds like you had a good training experience with the Sippalgi buddy.
Yah I really thoughtthe style was cool. Once he got inside someones defenses the hand combinations didn't stop. Really cool stuff.
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practicing both KMA an JMA is interesting. though sometimes for me it gets annoying when i get too stuck doing certain techniques
The self defense side of it? I have never heard of it being used as self defense, just more as a fun game and clever diversion. I mean, I have read and heard all of the attempts to link TKD to it, but I never took this link seriously since the Korean Taekkyon Research Association has openly and vehemently denied the link and they know more about Taekkyon than probably anybody else. Their official definition was that it is a game played with the feet that features low kicks and stomps to the opponent's legs and feet to try to get him (or her) to fall. I would be interested in hearing about the self defense side of it, if there is one .
Ya, it is very fun doing a JMA and KMA. There are not too many differences, they are mostly aesthetic. Well, the KMA flow much better than the JMA in my opinion. They complement each other very well, though. I have started training Chinese Kempo recently and it is really starting to grow on me. I dunno, the whole made for the street thing really appeals to me because I put my life on the line everyday to make the world a better place (or at least try ).
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The phrase Chinese Kempo always makes me smile a bit. Kempo is more Japanese than Chinese as illistrated by the uniforms, language used, and stance work. Even though the upper body is said to be from the Chinese systems, it seems to only to be influenced by chuan fa but doesn't apear to be the same. I'm not not saying Kempo isn't an effective martial art. I just find it interesting than an art pulling so heavily from Japanese concepts and society calls itself Chinese.
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The self defense side of it? I have never heard of it being used as self defense, just more as a fun game and clever diversion. I mean, I have read and heard all of the attempts to link TKD to it, but I never took this link seriously since the Korean Taekkyon Research Association has openly and vehemently denied the link and they know more about Taekkyon than probably anybody else. Their official definition was that it is a game played with the feet that features low kicks and stomps to the opponent's legs and feet to try to get him (or her) to fall. I would be interested in hearing about the self defense side of it, if there is one .
Ya, it is very fun doing a JMA and KMA. There are not too many differences, they are mostly aesthetic. Well, the KMA flow much better than the JMA in my opinion. They complement each other very well, though. I have started training Chinese Kempo recently and it is really starting to grow on me. I dunno, the whole made for the street thing really appeals to me because I put my life on the line everyday to make the world a better place (or at least try ).
when it comes to ninjutsu/taijutsu/jujutsu i like the flow better cause its seemingly more fluid. but the KMA is more fluid to me than the other hard styles of JMA.
what gets me stuck sometimes is if ive been training alot of TKD, then go to ninjutsu some of the blocking and strikes i have to remember the variations cause in TKD you do them one way but in ninjutsu u do them similar but there are different positionings and variations to correspond the way you react to certain attacks. but the cross-training will get better with more experience. since the JMA side is sorta playing catch up with the KMA foundation.
with Taekkyon its a traditional art. but it has the folk game sport side which is full contact and a practical self defense side. different taekkyon lineages and schools focus on different aspects.
thats one of the reasons why it was banned during the Japanese occupation era, not only for attempting to wipe out Korean culture but also cause some of the taekkyon practicioners, who were gamblers and thugs also gave Japanese martial artists a hard time in street fights
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Cool! Taekkyon always looked like it could be devastating in self defense, but I have just not been able to find anything on the self defense side of things. I guess that they choose to refer to it as a folk game and leave it at that for whatever reason.
Ya, don't worry about the flow between the two arts. I was the same way with Shotokan and TKD. Eventually it all starts flowing together and seemingly incongruent techniques begin to fit together. I guess that it is one of those things that comes with time. Now, my JMA and KMA have merged into one mutant MA along with my police and military H2H training. Chinese Kempo is currently being absorbed as we speak.
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Cool! Taekkyon always looked like it could be devastating in self defense, but I have just not been able to find anything on the self defense side of things. I guess that they choose to refer to it as a folk game and leave it at that for whatever reason.
Ya, don't worry about the flow between the two arts. I was the same way with Shotokan and TKD. Eventually it all starts flowing together and seemingly incongruent techniques begin to fit together. I guess that it is one of those things that comes with time. Now, my JMA and KMA have merged into one mutant MA along with my police and military H2H training. Chinese Kempo is currently being absorbed as we speak.
cool stuff. Chinese Kempo has some bad ass combinations. the ones i seen in Okinawa has a pretty good reputation among the Karate circles.
what type of military H2H do you do?
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"Never stop moving. If you stop moving,you give your opponents openings and you may be killed. If you stop moving, what you are doing merely becomes a technique, not Taijutsu"
Shaka Zulu:
"A man chosen to wield life and death on the battlefield must be an artist, if he isn't, he is simply a murderer."
Thanks, Joemo, it is both an honor and a pleasure to do my part and give back to society. Shinobi, Chinese Kempo has really grown on me and it indeed contains some rather ruthless techs, lots of destructions and other fight enders. As for military H2H, I stick to most of the basics that I learned while in Boot. You know, CQB/standup grappling, takedowns and finishes, restraints, pain compliance, sentry removal, knife/bayonet, etc. etc. The arrest and restraint procedures that I learned in Law Enforcement also blend well with it. I had to stop myself at times during WTF sparring because once I close ranks I'll be extremely temped to go for a brutal takedown. It is funny how everything you learn sorts itself out and just kind of comes out spontaneously in the moment.
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we all know about chinese kung fu movies but i think a lot of people dont know that there are a lot of korean martial arts movies out there that are worth watching that portray some of the korean martial arts history. some of these are:
Musa the Warrior
Fighter in the Wind
The Restless
Bichunmoo
Shadowless Sword
just to name a few.
anyone know of any other good korean martial arts history movies out there. let me know
thanks
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