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My instructor recommended to me to go over the forms in my mind at least once before hitting the sack at night; it helps to keep them in the front of your memory.
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I like this subject. I am a forms fan. Have you noticed the profeciency level in the Japanesse styles compared to the korean style practioners? They look more crisp in their technique. I found this instructor on youtube that has most of the forms on his site YouTube - Pyung Ahn ee Dan. This is good to learn the form itself. And to demonstrate showmanship and attention to detail and saw this practitioner YouTube - Matsubayashi Ryu - Passai
GM Randall's video is actually the video In learned Pyung Ahn E Dan from! But sadly I have to agree concerning the quality of the forms. The Matsubayashi Ryu video is better for style. It irks me to see someone do a form with a sickening lack of power or accuracy.
Apparently he belongs to an organization called the Traditional TSD Assoc. Not my league, but I do respect traditionalism. Until it becomes destructive.
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My instructor recommended to me to go over the forms in my mind at least once before hitting the sack at night; it helps to keep them in the front of your memory.
this is the best way imo.it makes you learn it so much better
One of my instructors told me that once you have memorized all the movements, now make it yours. Perfect every movement. Make every part have purpose and meaning.
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I like this subject. I am a forms fan. Have you noticed the profeciency level in the Japanesse styles compared to the korean style practioners? They look more crisp in their technique. I found this instructor on youtube that has most of the forms on his site YouTube - Pyung Ahn ee Dan. This is good to learn the form itself. And to demonstrate showmanship and attention to detail and saw this practitioner YouTube - Matsubayashi Ryu - Passai
I disagree! I have trained in tkd for some 20yrs and I compete against many 'karate' style forms to which I usually win due to how crisp my techniques are and how accurate and sharp the movements are! As far as styles go, we train in traditional 'chang hun' NOT the NEW Sin-wave... which is what you are most likely referring to. Our stances and techniques are usually meant to be sharp. I personally have found that regardless of the style it is usually the organization or head instructor that determines the way the students perform their forms
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I personally have found that regardless of the style it is usually the organization or head instructor that determines the way the students perform their forms
I have to agree with this. I have seen a LOT of crappy looking forms done by TKD stylists. I mean, a LOT. Every now and then, I see one TKD stylist who does forms GREAT. However, I see karateka all the time who are awesome at forms, and every now and then I see some who royaly suck. Could it be that TKD has been over commercialized, while karate has not as much? I hoonestly don't know. I just know that to say that one person will suck at forms because they do a specific style, without seeing them perform a form, is stupid. I reserve my judgement of the form or the ability of one performing one, until I have seen them perform one.
I wonder, if person A did a kata better than person B, would you bet your hard earned money that person A would win a fight against person B? (assuming similar weight and age)
I wonder, if person A did a kata better than person B, would you bet your hard earned money that person A would win a fight against person B? (assuming similar weight and age)
Not always. However, I always competed in three different divisions in tournaments; forms, weapons forms, and sparring. I usually bring home a trophy in all three. I also require my students to compete in forms if they wish to compete in sparring.
Not always. However, I always competed in three different divisions in tournaments; forms, weapons forms, and sparring. I usually bring home a trophy in all three. I also require my students to compete in forms if they wish to compete in sparring.
That's a good solid requirement. Makes for a more rounded martial artist!
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I wonder, if person A did a kata better than person B, would you bet your hard earned money that person A would win a fight against person B? (assuming similar weight and age)
Absolutly not. However, not every person who does forms does so with fighting being the end result. Also, many martial artist recognize form as being only one of many tools. A person's form may be subpar, but that doesn't show what thier other training tools are like.
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I wonder, if person A did a kata better than person B, would you bet your hard earned money that person A would win a fight against person B? (assuming similar weight and age)
humm.. well, I must admit there are some people who are naturally 'better' at sparring than at forms/patterns, at least to begin with, and visa versa.. That is NOT Always the Case.. Because a well rounded TMA is/should be (at least) 'good' at both and some are 'great' at both! I have had students that, when they trained with commitment and effort they became very 'good' formist and even 'better' fighters because of their commitment to technique/etc.!
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I wonder, if person A did a kata better than person B, would you bet your hard earned money that person A would win a fight against person B? (assuming similar weight and age)
Trick question. The martial artist who doesn't practice kata is more likely to win!
j/k don't eat me!
Although Tri might agree
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