Master Paulie Zink: Monkey Kung Fu

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by LeiWuLong

Mmmmm i dont know anyone that does any of the hou zhi (monkey)styles either gong fu, wu shu or shaolin here in Australia. I've always been intrested in sparring with any of the hou zhi styles. What intresting moves are there in this style?

Well, Monkey Steals the Peach is one of my favorite moves, but there's the monkey double back kick that's fun, and a bunch of other moves. I'm going to miss my class tonight, but at the next class I'll take some pictures of different moves and upload them so you can see them.

This link takes you to a video of Paulie Zink competing in an empty hand comp. at the San Diego Internationals in the 80s, he's doing Lost Monkey: YouTube - Monkey

This one is of master Zink doing the first Monkey Staff form that you learn out of the two: YouTube - Monkey Staff

Thought you might like to see them...even though he's being a poo poo head :P

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by LeiWuLong

haha Martial man ! ur such a grump

Think of it this way;

A animal style or move, doesnt always show that particular animal.

Many chuan fa moves, traditionally use animal names or short descriptions in a whimsical faashion as to "hide" what is actually going on per move. Also, such names were made in more interesting to record/remember.

So a move, though described as a animal, could not. Or a move that has a name, could look like a variety of animals.

Simply, I could posts many pics and ask people to guess what animal. In many cases, there would be a vaiety of responses.

[sannin227]

I am glad that the thread i started months ago has now spread and become a large discussion...

I ended up never really even finishing the monkey kung fu tape mentioned in the beginning of the thread because as also mentioned it was one of paulie zinks' older videos, which didnt really practically teach the moves, it was more of a guided presentation.

[LeiWuLong]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

Well, Monkey Steals the Peach is one of my favorite moves, but there's the monkey double back kick that's fun, and a bunch of other moves. I'm going to miss my class tonight, but at the next class I'll take some pictures of different moves and upload them so you can see them.

This link takes you to a video of Paulie Zink competing in an empty hand comp. at the San Diego Internationals in the 80s, he's doing Lost Monkey: YouTube - Monkey

This one is of master Zink doing the first Monkey Staff form that you learn out of the two: YouTube - Monkey Staff

Thought you might like to see them...even though he's being a poo poo head :P

Well that was very intertaining, i must say, hes very acrobatic , my personal style is bear based and somewhat more ridgid, i see now i may have to work on making my movements flow if i want to eneter a freestyle comp against guys like this. I look forward to seeing your pictures thanks.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by sannin227

I am glad that the thread i started months ago has now spread and become a large discussion...

I ended up never really even finishing the monkey kung fu tape mentioned in the beginning of the thread because as also mentioned it was one of paulie zinks' older videos, which didnt really practically teach the moves, it was more of a guided presentation.

I dont think vids can actually "teach"

[LeiWuLong]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

I dont think vids can actually "teach"

i must say i concur though it can give you a good idea.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by LeiWuLong

i must say i concur though it can give you a good idea.

I agree it can give you a idea, present some sort of education, but it cannot concisely teach.

[LeiWuLong]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

I agree it can give you a idea, present some sort of education, but it cannot concisely teach.

yup , but not teach no way

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by LeiWuLong

yup , but not teach no way

Hey, dont misunderstand me, I have many many books, magazines, vids, dating from the 60's and up (vids started in the 70's) and they are good for general reference and scholar studies.

[LeiWuLong]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Hey, dot misunderstand me, i have many mny books, magazines, vids, dating from the 60's and up (vuds started in the 70's) and they are good for general reference and scholar studies.

yeah i agree but not teach to the effect of refinement, a teacher can see if your not doing it quite right,and ajust you, but as a referance and for study it can be invaluble.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by LeiWuLong

yeah i agree but not teach to the effect of refinement, a teacher can see if your not doing it quite right,and ajust you, but as a referance and for study it can be invaluble.

Indeed, the common idea. As I think we went off topic to another thread discussing the very thing

[sannin227]

Yeah there was a thread a long time ago about this. I never rlly meant teach to the point of mastery/refinement/whatever. I meant so that i could have a basic understanding of the moves presented in the video (Not the entire style) enough to be able to roughly copy them.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by sannin227

Yeah there was a thread a long time ago about this. I never rlly meant teach to the point of mastery/refinement/whatever. I meant so that i could have a basic understanding of the moves presented in the video (Not the entire style) enough to be able to roughly copy them.

Copying something isnt the same as learning. There may be hidden explanations and details.

[sannin227]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Copying something isnt the same as learning. There may be hidden explanations and details.

... I am not saying that at all. i am saying copying. copying, not learning.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by sannin227

... I am not saying that at all. i am saying copying. copying, not learning.

Gotcha,,,,,,,I saw him once doing a demo...he (Paulie) was remarkable