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I always thought it was just another name for a special tournament rules type. Although this is what I pulled up.
San shou (散手) or Sanda (散打) is a form of Chinese self-defense and a martial art. It consists of free-fighting and is composed of various aspects of wushu styles. The two main styles that san shou is composed of is kickboxing and shuai jiao, a Chinese form of wrestling.
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The problem with competition is that there are rules and restrictions. For example, chin na applications are often not allowed and eye gouging, groin strikes etc are forbidden.
This changes the purpose of san shou which is to simulate a fight situation. So san shou competition is quite different from its original purpose. I think a similar thing has happened to judo and karate for competition.
Many tai chi instructors dislike san shou comps for these reasons. It is nearly as bad as syncronised sport wushu. Is that an american thing?
actualy the san shou looks more modern than wushu styles - in my own opinion - i used to practice eagle , tiger , southern and northern boxin . but i have never uses it in sanshou tournaments .
i participated in many tournaments i got second in one and third in another and 5th in the last one but i was just 10 when i got participated in these tournaments .
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Per competition, I've seen many bouts of many arts. If I didnt label these types, no one could differentiate.
For street use, the fact that they have gear on, does not warrant them to slow down or alter their methods upon being struck. In other words, without the gear, per like a street fight, their reactions would not be the same.
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
I love it. It is like a combination of sumo and ufc. These rules dont do violence to a sensible street strategy. Here you have two people who are trying to remain standing , and not be pushed out of the ring. I will go on the record and predict cung le will beat shamrock. I hope he has practised some ground techniques or he is going to not win so good.
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San Shou is a type of sport fighting. They fight on a platform 18 inches off the ground. Strikes to the opponent are 1 point, throwing the opponent without going to the mat yourself are 2 points, and throwing your opponent off the mat are 3 points. It is full contact. It is NOT a style within itself.
Shuai Jiao is wrestling (grappling)based upon Mongolian wrestling. Most times you see this it will be the sport version. In the sport you get points for throwing your opponent to the mat without your knees or elbows toughing the mat.
San Da is just sparring or trading hands, usually referring to full contact. It is not an art.
Cung Le was the premier San Shou competitor until he decided to go MMA. I've seen some of his San Shou matches and he is very talented. Hope he does well against Frank Shamrock.
On one site I went to they said that pushing people out of the ring was a foul. If what you are saying is true I believe this would be the best sport for developing street skills. Often it is advantageous to push your opponent past some point. I learned this as a crewman in helicopter service. As in out the door. Or into an object behind them that they obviously cant see. Also restarting makes sense after a take down. I base this on the fact that the second man down has an advantage. As in it's better to be on top. Also I believe many of the rules are more problematic on the ground for realistic street situations. IMHO
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On one site I went to they said that pushing people out of the ring was a foul. If what you are saying is true I believe this would be the best sport for developing street skills. Often it is advantageous to push your opponent past some point. I learned this as a crewman in helicopter service. As in out the door. Or into an object behind them that they obviously cant see. Also restarting makes sense after a take down. I base this on the fact that the second man down has an advantage. As in it's better to be on top. Also I believe many of the rules are more problematic on the ground for realistic street situations. IMHO
Like all sport arts it isn't %100 street effective. Most sports aren't meant to be as they add the safety element.
Every San Shou match I have seen give three points for throwing off the platform, exept one. That was due to there being no platform due to venue restrictions. San Shou is a decendent of the practice of Chinese martial artist to challenge each other on raised platforms in the town square. I'm sorry, but I can't remember the term for the platform.
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