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Old 04-09-2008, 08:47 PM   #16 (permalink)

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All I can say is there has to be a difference in the way we are doing the stance, because I am not a wimp, and I practically collapsed at 2:30. There is way to big of a time gap, so you must have done it differently either legs weren't the same distance apart, or you weren't in as low of a stance.

If you insist that you are doing it the same, than you have completely kicked my butt.
my but was pretty much paralell with my kness, so i'd say it was deep. and its not a daily thing, i've only tryed for long periods of time a few times becuase its really boring. but thats the longest i've ever done. and yea it was incredably painful after like 10 minutes but i just stayed in it, because i was trying to prove to my teacher that i can do really hard things if i push my self
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Old 04-09-2008, 08:58 PM   #17 (permalink)

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The stance depends on the art/teacher.

I've done many, but one, Yi Ma Bu, was done in three phases. One would be lucky to make it to the third, let alone a hour per.
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Old 04-09-2008, 09:02 PM   #18 (permalink)

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martialman i'm sure that you've seen people do horse stances for an hour if nor more. right? cuz iknow that WC Lun is not belive me unless i make an hour long video of me standing in horse stance
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you should do that! You can do hand movements and stuff to keep yourself entertained!

But seriously I believe you. But now I am going to go and try to beat it.
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you should do that! You can do hand movements and stuff to keep yourself entertained!

But seriously I believe you. But now I am going to go and try to beat it.
honestly you just need the willpower and can probbly get close to it. just dont let the pain take control. and also have somone play some music if your with people
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As I said, iothe time in such stance depends on the type-per how it is done and the teacher/art.

This reflects upon two things in my mind;

One, is it worth doing it for a hour, wheras a stance set-up diferrently could not have the average/beginner going past, say 20 minutes.

Two, is I wouldnt see a complete value in doing a stance up to a hour. (Mainly of limited time and to train in other things.)
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It all depends on how yo want to spend your time. But holding a horse stance for a while really strengthens your legs, as a matter of fact, it is probably the most effective way.
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As I said, iothe time in such stance depends on the type-per how it is done and the teacher/art.

This reflects upon two things in my mind;

One, is it worth doing it for a hour, wheras a stance set-up diferrently could not have the average/beginner going past, say 20 minutes.

Two, is I wouldnt see a complete value in doing a stance up to a hour. (Mainly of limited time and to train in other things.)
the actual way i learned was just to do 30 minutes but i was trying to prove a point so i did an hour
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I missed this because I very rarely watch this low on the forums. (Sorry less controversy occurs here.)

So, I tried it and determined that for me around 4 minutes became pure agony. Then again, I was using a level on my thighs. So I bet if I started to cheat I could go for longer. This is a good exercise. It is very similar to 'wall sits' in terms of the muscles it hits.
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I missed this because I very rarely watch this low on the forums. (Sorry less controversy occurs here.)

So, I tried it and determined that for me around 4 minutes became pure agony. Then again, I was using a level on my thighs. So I bet if I started to cheat I could go for longer. This is a good exercise. It is very similar to 'wall sits' in terms of the muscles it hits.
see thats the thing i never said i did it confortably but, i've just learnt to just take the pain in most things. so doubling my normal time wasnt much of a stretch
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Do a post of you doing it 4 minutes and I'll be very impressed. It won't count unless your thighs are parralell to the ground, your feet are squared, and your back is straight. Put a stick or staff on your lap. It'll help you to keep from cheating. If it rolls off, you know you are not keeping the stance. It should look like you are sitting in a chair. If you want an extra challenge try and do it with someone standing on your thighs or sitting on your shoulders. It sucks. Personally I wouldn't recomend doing this stance for any length of time or with extra weight added until you have worked up to it. Its VERY hard on the entire knee. Of course, if you can do it for an hour, you shouldn't have any problems at all. Also, this is NOT a Wing Chun stance. Its a training stance I learned in a different system. The problem with doing this stance for a long time is usually not pain, though it does hurt a lot, it is fatigue. So Jalek, will you post one for you doing it 4 minutes?
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When I was younger we were required to hold horse for 5 mins at a time in karate. That was the kids class I'm sure the adults did more. Militis horse is a good way to develop leg strength but far from the best. Squats and lunges will do far more for developing explosive power.
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It all depends on how yo want to spend your time. But holding a horse stance for a while really strengthens your legs, as a matter of fact, it is probably the most effective way.
Actually, weighted resistence is better. The major con in such stances are immobility, leading to many problems.
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Do a post of you doing it 4 minutes and I'll be very impressed. It won't count unless your thighs are parralell to the ground, your feet are squared, and your back is straight. Put a stick or staff on your lap. It'll help you to keep from cheating. If it rolls off, you know you are not keeping the stance. It should look like you are sitting in a chair. If you want an extra challenge try and do it with someone standing on your thighs or sitting on your shoulders. It sucks. Personally I wouldn't recomend doing this stance for any length of time or with extra weight added until you have worked up to it. Its VERY hard on the entire knee. Of course, if you can do it for an hour, you shouldn't have any problems at all. Also, this is NOT a Wing Chun stance. Its a training stance I learned in a different system. The problem with doing this stance for a long time is usually not pain, though it does hurt a lot, it is fatigue. So Jalek, will you post one for you doing it 4 minutes?
actually i'll do tha. i'll make the video sometime withen the next week it really depends on when i can use the camera
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see thats the thing i never said i did it confortably but, i've just learnt to just take the pain in most things. so doubling my normal time wasnt much of a stretch
Taking pain is not justice of doing something for past a duration. Too much of anything is not good (as too little)
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