How much pain can you take?

[lilmissme]

We spar, depending on the experience of the opponent in class depends on how hard.
Newbies is non contact.
junior belts very light contact.
medium belts light contact.
senior belts, as much contact as we both agree on.
Sometimes we have conditioning classes where we cant block just to teach us not to flinch from a face punch (close your eyes cant see the next one coming) or to breath properly for body strike. My pain endurance has risen remarkably, but I still bruise really easily. spend the fllowing day comparing bruises LOl

[Akai Shizuku]

There's a sempai in my dojo who's really tough and I spar with him whenever we're both there. He uses grappling gloves (which have little padding) and his kicks are crazy. Once he clocked me with a roundhouse to the face. I give him a combo or two and then I get winded and need to catch my breath. He says to suck it up, and I comply. I fight hard (I'm still a yellow belt), and sometimes am able to give a good hit or two, though after sparring with him I get rather winded and need to sit and catch my breath for a few minutes. I drink about half of my 1.5L water bottle and lack as much energy as I usually have through the rest of my time at the dojo. I recognize that my weakness here is stamina as well as pain threshold (which is how this relates to the thread). I am normally able to easily withstand hits from the other students, it's only this sempai I have trouble with. What do you guys think of this?

[lilmissme]

Originally Posted by Akai Shizuku

There's a sempai in my dojo who's really tough and I spar with him whenever we're both there. He uses grappling gloves (which have little padding) and his kicks are crazy. Once he clocked me with a roundhouse to the face. I give him a combo or two and then I get winded and need to catch my breath. He says to suck it up, and I comply. I fight hard (I'm still a yellow belt), and sometimes am able to give a good hit or two, though after sparring with him I get rather winded and need to sit and catch my breath for a few minutes. I drink about half of my 1.5L water bottle and lack as much energy as I usually have through the rest of my time at the dojo. I recognize that my weakness here is stamina as well as pain threshold (which is how this relates to the thread). I am normally able to easily withstand hits from the other students, it's only this sempai I have trouble with. What do you guys think of this?

Maybe its fear?
Endurance wasnt a problem until i sparred with my Sifu, thought the 3 minutes were really long......the time keeper was so engrossed he forgot to stop the spar until 7 1/2 minutes . Was off the mats on my hands and knees gasping for air after!

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

I would suggest some form of contact sparring with some real energy. If you've never been hit it can really mess with you and that's not a good thing if your in a fight. Mostly I try not to get hit, but when I do its not nearly as big a deal as when I first started training. My body can withstand more due to the training and my mind tends to concentrate on getting me out of the situation I'm in then feel the pain later. I think a lot of people that train are like this. Its what my friends and I call the "That's-gonna-hurt-tomorrow syndrome." Guess it applies to drinking alchohol too

Drinking alchol is a chemical based resistence. Just becauseone there is going to be a consequence, does not mean they will heed

[PenNe]

Spar is good for endurance..hehe, the more spar and frequent u involve,the more ur body can resist the pain..our body has special healing, when our body has been hitted many times, the particular area become more tense and hardening. Then there is the time that our body can start resist the pain..hehe..

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by PenNe

Spar is good for endurance..hehe, the more spar and frequent u involve,the more ur body can resist the pain..our body has special healing, when our body has been hitted many times, the particular area become more tense and hardening. Then there is the time that our body can start resist the pain..hehe..

Not really. Sparring may have one overcome some mental block of getting hit, but is someone has a low tolerance for pain, they may never built a tolerance.

[Akai Shizuku]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Not really. Sparring may have one overcome some mental block of getting hit, but is someone has a low tolerance for pain, they may never built a tolerance.

So you're saying if you can't take a hit it will stay that way for a lifetime?

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Akai Shizuku

So you're saying if you can't take a hit it will stay that way for a lifetime?

Almost. Wasn't you whom had posted meditation could ease pain?

[Akai Shizuku]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Almost. Wasn't you whom had posted meditation could ease pain?

I think your opinion here, though you are entitled to it, is an antithesis to the point of training. I'm sure if you look from my perspective you will be able to understand why.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Akai Shizuku

I think your opinion here, though you are entitled to it, is an antithesis to the point of training. I'm sure if you look from my perspective you will be able to understand why.

It isnt a matter of your opinion or mine....

Simply I posted:

Not really. Sparring may have one overcome some mental block of getting hit, but is someone has a low tolerance for pain, they may never built a tolerance.

Yous posted;
So you're saying if you can't take a hit it will stay that way for a lifetime?

I posted;
Almost. Wasn't you whom had posted meditation could ease pain?

To which you hadnt really answered.

My question, WAS it you whom had posted and/or agree, that meditation could ease pain? Simply answer Yes, no, or Agree.....

[El Draco]

I think... even if the fighter is a seasoned fighter, he is bound to go down if he gets a broken rib or leg... Pain cannot be conquered, I guess

[JackG]

Originally Posted by El Draco

I think... even if the fighter is a seasoned fighter, he is bound to go down if he gets a broken rib or leg... Pain cannot be conquered, I guess

I agree with leg but not rib many people have continued fighting after a broken rib especially due to adrenaline

[Akai Shizuku]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

It isnt a matter of your opinion or mine....

Simply I posted:

Not really. Sparring may have one overcome some mental block of getting hit, but is someone has a low tolerance for pain, they may never built a tolerance.

Yous posted;
So you're saying if you can't take a hit it will stay that way for a lifetime?

I posted;
Almost. Wasn't you whom had posted meditation could ease pain?

To which you hadnt really answered.

My question, WAS it you whom had posted and/or agree, that meditation could ease pain? Simply answer Yes, no, or Agree.....

I see your point; yes, I do believe that meditation may ease pain...Do you consider training to be meditation in and of itself, or are you referring to solid meditation that takes place before, during or after training?

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by El Draco

I think... even if the fighter is a seasoned fighter, he is bound to go down if he gets a broken rib or leg... Pain cannot be conquered, I guess

This isnt always a pain issue, as it points to more of a body structure/support issue

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Akai Shizuku

I see your point; yes, I do believe that meditation may ease pain...Do you consider training to be meditation in and of itself, or are you referring to solid meditation that takes place before, during or after training?

According to you, meditation can ease pain-correct?