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I'm not sure that training to deal with MORE pain is the right way to prepare for a fight, to be honest. While it is important to find out if you have a glass jaw before stepping into a ring professionally, I don't think getting punished just for the sake of pain tolerance threshold is very smart. Train NOT to get hurt, that makes more sense.
Also, assume your opponent DOES have a high tolerance for pain. Making any assumptions that you can stop someone with a pure pain technique is risky. In my opinion, this is more important than training yourself to be tougher.
IMHO.
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I'm not sure that training to deal with MORE pain is the right way to prepare for a fight, to be honest. While it is important to find out if you have a glass jaw before stepping into a ring professionally, I don't think getting punished just for the sake of pain tolerance threshold is very smart. Train NOT to get hurt, that makes more sense.
Also, assume your opponent DOES have a high tolerance for pain. Making any assumptions that you can stop someone with a pure pain technique is risky. In my opinion, this is more important than training yourself to be tougher.
IMHO.
I'm inclined to agree. No matter what training method you have to deal with pain, it will take time away from other things. In general I would say that a person would benefit most from perfecting blocking techniques and building up speed as opposed to conditioning or other mental ways of dealing with pain.
Also, keep in mind that pain exists to let us know that something is damaging to our body. It is a type of internal negative reinforcement that allows us to learn new skills (provided we don't let fear get in the way). As a result, de-conditioning a pain response and/or learning to train through certain types of pain may actually be counter productive in the long term of physical fitness and, thus, ability to defend one's self.
Now, I know the major protest that people are going to have, "But Chapel, our muscles hurt when we exercise and that is good for us, so you whole theory about pain teaching us to avoid bad things is bunk and you are an idiot." Well, in actuality exercise does damage the body in that it causes micro fractures in bones and breaks down muscles which then have to repair themselves. However, anyone who has had a good workout knows that at the end of it you feel good. That specific type of pain also releases endorphins. This is often called a "Runner's High."
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I would like to point out that the more pain you cause an opponent, he more likely he may be to flee. I think making an opponent flee is usually better than incapacitating or, in the case of a kenjutsuka like myself, decapitating him.
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I would like to point out that the more pain you cause an opponent, he more likely he may be to flee. I think making an opponent flee is usually better than incapacitating or, in the case of a kenjutsuka like myself, decapitating him.
Cutting off a head will seem painless.
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I'm not sure that training to deal with MORE pain is the right way to prepare for a fight, to be honest. While it is important to find out if you have a glass jaw before stepping into a ring professionally, I don't think getting punished just for the sake of pain tolerance threshold is very smart. Train NOT to get hurt, that makes more sense.
Also, assume your opponent DOES have a high tolerance for pain. Making any assumptions that you can stop someone with a pure pain technique is risky. In my opinion, this is more important than training yourself to be tougher.
IMHO.
I agree with this post.......
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Originally Posted by Joemoplata
I'm not sure that training to deal with MORE pain is the right way to prepare for a fight, to be honest. While it is important to find out if you have a glass jaw before stepping into a ring professionally, I don't think getting punished just for the sake of pain tolerance threshold is very smart. Train NOT to get hurt, that makes more sense.
Also, assume your opponent DOES have a high tolerance for pain. Making any assumptions that you can stop someone with a pure pain technique is risky. In my opinion, this is more important than training yourself to be tougher.
IMHO.
Agreed. Incapacitating an attacker works better than trying to apply enough pain to make him stop. Different people have different pain thresholds and also react differently to pain. Always assume the guy attacking you the toughest, meanest, most skilled sob on the planet. If he isn't then lucky you. You are still prepared.
Agreed. Incapacitating an attacker works better than trying to apply enough pain to make him stop. Different people have different pain thresholds and also react differently to pain. Always assume the guy attacking you the toughest, meanest, most skilled sob on the planet. If he isn't then lucky you. You are still prepared.
If the guy attacking you the toughest, meanest, most skilled sob on the planet. You can still prepared, and get your butt beat
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Agreed. Incapacitating an attacker works better than trying to apply enough pain to make him stop. Different people have different pain thresholds and also react differently to pain. Always assume the guy attacking you the toughest, meanest, most skilled sob on the planet. If he isn't then lucky you. You are still prepared.
I have seen police video of a man taking 4 shots at less then 6 feet from a .357 Magnum and not even slow down. How do you think he will react from a boot to the head? If I came across a guy like that I am running the other way.
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Like I said in the my above post, if he isn't the meanest, toughest, sob on the planet then lucky you. Training with the idea that you'll be attacked by someone with less talent, skill, or physical attributes is silly. Anyone with less of these qualities you should be able to defend yourself without training.
Yes, you can be beaten even if you are well prepared. However, I think the odds of that happening are much less than if you aren't prepared. Common sense, huh?
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Like I said in the my above post, if he isn't the meanest, toughest, sob on the planet then lucky you. Training with the idea that you'll be attacked by someone with less talent, skill, or physical attributes is silly. Anyone with less of these qualities you should be able to defend yourself without training.
Yes, you can be beaten even if you are well prepared. However, I think the odds of that happening are much less than if you aren't prepared. Common sense, huh?
I must agree. Common sense is vastly important, and we must remember the fundamental philosophies behind martial arts training. We also must remember why we personally train.
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I have seen police video of a man taking 4 shots at less then 6 feet from a .357 Magnum and not even slow down. How do you think he will react from a boot to the head? If I came across a guy like that I am running the other way.
Are you sure it was a .357 Mag? And where were the shots placed? And was the man on drugs?-Which is a different factor
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