How much pain can you take?

[Akai Shizuku]

In a real physical confrontation, I don't care about how much pain I cause my opponent. I just want to immobilize/incapacitate him.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Zipper

I think pain goes with the application of force at times.

If through the course of a fight I get my opponent down on the ground and he seems to be no longer a threat to me and I go and kick him in the head of few times I have exceded my application of force.

I am sure you know about the Force Continuim from Law Enforcement. You only use as much force as necessary to end a conflict. Through an interaction with an attacker it may move up and down with how much force is needed.

But if one is truly skilled, their mastery would have them inflict less pain.....hmmnnnn

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Akai Shizuku

In a real physical confrontation, I don't care about how much pain I cause my opponent. I just want to immobilize/incapacitate him.

My point exactly....the idea/thought of pain is not addressed.........mentally

[Akai Shizuku]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

My point exactly....the idea/thought of pain is not addressed.........mentally

Do you think the concept of pain could be adressed subconciously?

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Akai Shizuku

Do you think the concept of pain could be adressed subconciously?

Hmmmmn, good question......

Are you referring to being ready or prepared for pain, or re-focus it after its infliction?

[Akai Shizuku]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Hmmmmn, good question......

Are you referring to being ready or prepared for pain, or re-focus it after its infliction?

All of those things, in addition to having an unconcious, malicious mindset of a sort bent on causing a lot of pain.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Akai Shizuku

All of those things, in addition to having an unconcious, malicious mindset of a sort bent on causing a lot of pain.

Man had a malicious mindset of causing pain for various reasons throughout history.

But in battle, I would think that pain isnt the issue.

[Zipper]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

But if one is truly skilled, their mastery would have them inflict less pain.....hmmnnnn

Through their self discipline and self control they would only exert as much pain as needed to get away from the fight.

[WC_Lun]

All this discussion of pain and the mind set for inflicting it just makes me think your over analyzing it.

[47MartialMan]

Well, the thread continues......

[Ghuruka]

i suppose fear plays a part, once you realise you are not made of glass then you can start taking hits

[Akai Shizuku]

Originally Posted by Ghuruka

i suppose fear plays a part, once you realise you are not made of glass then you can start taking hits

Yeah, that's a good point. But I notice that this realization can happen at varying times; I'm an orange belt, and there's a purple belt at my dojo who's afraid to spar with me because he says I'm too strong. Meanwhile there's a green belt who will gladly throw any rank of karateka everything he's got.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Ghuruka

i suppose fear plays a part, once you realise you are not made of glass then you can start taking hits

In some cases, fear can overcome pain.

[Akai Shizuku]

You mean, if you're scared enough, it won't hurt as much?

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Akai Shizuku

You mean, if you're scared enough, it won't hurt as much?

Yes. fear isnt jusr a factor to cause or feel pain at higher intensity. It can also lower it