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Martial Arts InjuriesDiscuss how to deal with martial arts injuries and illnesses here
I spent all of yesterday practicing an acrobatic move which involved a lot of jumping into a squatting position before firing off your feet again.
Felt fine for about an hour or so after practising the move (which I've cracked now by the way, quite impressive seeing as I learnt it in a day, my flatmate who was trying to teach it to me said it took him 2 months to do, but I recon I got it so quick because he's a great teacher, aww) but then after a brief rest my knees both really started to hurt.
At the moment, my knees feel fine when I'm walking about and I can bend my knees fine to kick etc. But if I've got my bodyweight on them and I try to do something like a squat, my kneecaps feel like they're being clawed at by rabid badgersharks.
What the hell is wrong with me? Has anyone got any advice? Especially Spinach, he knows whats what.
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
Rabid badgersharks, eh? That's an interesting picture.
A) When learning a new move, take it easy. Aside from learning how to do the move, you also need to give your body a chance to learn to handle the new stress. I learned Naihanchi Nidan (a kata with a lot of really low stances) in one night, practicing it 20 or so times. I was fine that night.
Starting the next day, and for two months after that, my legs hurt any time I'd squat or kneel because of the abuse I heaped on them that night.
At the very least, minimize the strain you put on them for a week (duh), and probably put heat or ice, whichever feels better, on them. (This is an official physical therapist line that I've heard dozens of times and still kind of amuses me. I don't know why)
Personally, if I felt like I had rabid badgersharks clawing my knees for more than two days, I'd see a doctor, but that's just me.
Get better soon.
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Totally been beaten to the mark again... I think you have a time zone advantage on me sir.
Your situation sounds serious.. If you have already reached the rabid badgershark stage, I'm afraid there is nothing we can do for you.. I'm sorry
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As has been said, take it easy, if symptoms persist please see your doctor.
Quite seriously though it sounds like an injury I had myself long time ago. I really don't think your knees are structurally prepared for the stress you have been placing on them. You might be looking at the possiblity of take it easy for awhile. And for the sake of your body you might have to consider slowing down a bit so you don't draw into old age on a zimmer frame. Like myself, some people aren't cut out for certain things. My knees are actaully royally screwed, knockkneed to be sure. If I stand with my feet perfectly straight ahead my knees go inward. Of course I just stand with my feet slightly out and I am fine. Still, the knee have a structural weakness, I must always watchmyself or I could end up have multiple surgeries like my brother has done. Additionally I have joint damage in my left hip from when my leg was dislocated at birth. As you can see I have alot of damage before I start. I still enjoy martial arts but I have a distinctive upper body flavour to it. My hands are my weapons and they work very well. You might find you have to mix it up a bit and change your style to accomodate your issues. Whiich isn't a bad thing, trust me.
That sucks considering the leggyness of Capoeira. Should I consider wearing knee supports thingys or am I just being a big wussy pomme?
I hope my knees get stronger though, because I can be expecting to be doing that move a lot more in the future.
Cheers of the help though.
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
That sucks considering the leggyness of Capoeira. Should I consider wearing knee supports thingys or am I just being a big wussy pomme?
I hope my knees get stronger though, because I can be expecting to be doing that move a lot more in the future.
Cheers of the help though.
I have the exact same problem when i do similiar movements , thats because i have flat feet , maybe you have the same?
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That sucks considering the leggyness of Capoeira. Should I consider wearing knee supports thingys or am I just being a big wussy pomme?
I hope my knees get stronger though, because I can be expecting to be doing that move a lot more in the future.
Cheers of the help though.
The wussy pomme bit goes without saying
I have to say in my limited experience in Capoeira that not all the moves are so demanding on ones knees. Perhaps you could talk to your instructor about your problem? What I can say for sure is that if you keep doing what you are doing your knees will continue to deteriorate. You need to either actively work on your knee strength with some proffesional help and take a break from what you are doing, modify your Capoeira with the aid of your instructor or stop doing Capoeira altogether. Or you can continue to get worse through the years to the point where you will be very limited in what you can train in. I have seen it happen a number of times.. Rehab is easier before the injury happens. Trust me on that too.
And Spinach returns the favor of me beating him to the punch.
What he said is exactly it, and I think it's something we all should think about frequently as we learn our various arts. Is there some pain that has been getting continually worse since we started this or that aspect of training?
Remember that most of our arts stem from a time when living to 50 was nowhere near a given, especially for warriors. You worried about surviving a battle today and then worried about arthritis or whatever when it happened. If you don't survive the battle, you won't have to worry about arthritis.
Because of this, many of the old training techniques (makiwara, to take an example from karate) are horribly damaging to the human body in the long term.
I am lucky that the previous and current masters of Matayoshi Kobudo were concerned with long-term health and have slowly modified the style to reduce the stress on the body.
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"I don't have the knack of victory at all times. I have only learned how not to miss the right moment." Kenshin Uesugi
"If you confer only with people in your own circle (relatives and friends), their opinions will naturally favor you, rendering them useless." Tsunetomo Yamamoto
"In true dialogue, both sides are willing to change."
Thich Nhat Hanh
That sucks considering the leggyness of Capoeira. Should I consider wearing knee supports thingys or am I just being a big wussy pomme?
I hope my knees get stronger though, because I can be expecting to be doing that move a lot more in the future.
Cheers of the help though.
A wussy apple ?
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The wussy pomme bit goes without saying
I have to say in my limited experience in Capoeira that not all the moves are so demanding on ones knees.
Lol, reminds me of when I went out drinking in New Zealand with three Aussies. I got annihilated.
Unfortunately, a lot of the moves are quite a strain on the knees, especially the escapes. My instructor said that knee problems are one of the most common complaints among Capoeiristas.
Luckily, my knees have stopped hurting today, they still feel a bit dodge so I'm still taking it easy. I'll take your advice about finding some way to strengthen my knees. Cheers for the help guys, was a relief to get some good advice so easily and quickly.
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A wussy apple ?
Pom or pomme, just another term for British. I no idea how that name came about. I know in French it means apple, but I don't know if the two are related.
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
Lol, reminds me of when I went out drinking in New Zealand with three Aussies. I got annihilated.
Unfortunately, a lot of the moves are quite a strain on the knees, especially the escapes. My instructor said that knee problems are one of the most common complaints among Capoeiristas.
Luckily, my knees have stopped hurting today, they still feel a bit dodge so I'm still taking it easy. I'll take your advice about finding some way to strengthen my knees. Cheers for the help guys, was a relief to get some good advice so easily and quickly.
To be expected, aussies do drink waaay to much...
I, like you, am in love with capoeira. I have done it for awhile and truly appreciate it, I know why you want to keep doing it no matter what. In my research into the history and so on I found out that one of the most common complaints in old Capoeiristas is arthritis of the knees.. The older maestres always adapt their style ot fit with there bodies. I think that should happen at a much younger age.
On the bright side old Capoeirista usually have ripped upper bodies so it ain't all bad
I spent all of yesterday practicing an acrobatic move which involved a lot of jumping into a squatting position before firing off your feet again.
Felt fine for about an hour or so after practising the move (which I've cracked now by the way, quite impressive seeing as I learnt it in a day, my flatmate who was trying to teach it to me said it took him 2 months to do, but I recon I got it so quick because he's a great teacher, aww) but then after a brief rest my knees both really started to hurt.
At the moment, my knees feel fine when I'm walking about and I can bend my knees fine to kick etc. But if I've got my bodyweight on them and I try to do something like a squat, my kneecaps feel like they're being clawed at by rabid badgersharks.
What the hell is wrong with me? Has anyone got any advice? Especially Spinach, he knows whats what.
Age and time is catching up
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
Done In My Knees Again
At the very least, minimize the strain you put on them for a week (duh), and probably put heat or ice, whichever feels better, on them. (This is an official physical therapist line that I've heard dozens of times and still kind of amuses me. I don't know why)
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