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Martial Arts InjuriesDiscuss how to deal with martial arts injuries and illnesses here
Excessive indulgence of anything can have deleterious effects. Likewise, the lesser. In other words too much, or too little of anything is not good. Beginning and/or youthful martial artists are covetous in training or for goals. The practitioner will push their body past the point of their endurance and will suffer an injury. This zealot mindset has grand intentions, but leaves little to understand limitations. Then, there are the prosaisms, for example; "No Pain-No Gain". However, I like mine-"Too Much Pain-Too Insane". Discomfort and slight pain is the body saying that it doesn’t like what is happening, but the mind has the idea that the body can endure, once it gets past the tolerances.
People in all areas of athletics, training, working out, tend to want to get fast results or will not allow time for the body to gradually become "acclimated" to its new and different routine. Often, even an instructor will injure himself in his zeal to show his students how to execute a technique perfectly if he has spent eight hours teaching martial arts and it is the last lesson of the evening. He is wise to show good form and let perfect form wait for a time when their body is fresh.
Over the years, one will experiment with other facets of training like swimming, running, weight lifting, etc. As with any new and different routine, the body is going to respond to the treatment. Even, if the routine was done before and had a termed hiatus, the body still has to adapt to it. A injury, of course is the result of the body getting taxed past its range. However, there are also injuries from coincidental routines, like sparring.
The problem with each injury, whatever gains one could have made would almost diminish and one would have to start again from lower range and worse, a body part that was once strong seems weakened. And the injury has a part in distracting the mind. The mind stores the memory of it and has the body in mollycoddle the injured part during renewed workouts.
These problems didn’t seem to arise until I commenced on my own training. When training under my instructors, it would seem I had fewer injuries and seemed to recover quicker with the help of their knowledge of sports medicine, Chinese medicine, and therapeutic message. Although I learned and shared his knowledge, they seemed to know how to administer to me instead of me administering it to myself. As strange, in turn, I seem to administer better to students.
We all can think back on injuries we have received and how most of them were related to overtraining or stress of one form or another.
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Over training frequently occurs in martial artists (as well as other athletes) who are training for competition or a specific event (i.e. rank testing) They simply have trained beyond the body's ability to recover. Young students (or beginners)often exercise longer and harder so they can improve. But without adequate rest and recovery, these training regimens can actually decrease performance.
I think conditioning requires a balance between training and recovery. Too much training and/or too little training may result in physical (and sometimes, psychology) symptoms/problems.
Over training frequently occurs in martial artists (as well as other athletes) who are training for competition or a specific event (i.e. rank testing) They simply have trained beyond the body's ability to recover. Young students (or beginners)often exercise longer and harder so they can improve. But without adequate rest and recovery, these training regimens can actually decrease performance.
I think conditioning requires a balance between training and recovery. Too much training and/or too little training may result in physical (and sometimes, psychology) symptoms/problems.
Thanks for your post, though it is bascially what I stated.
Can you think of a near-serious injury that prevented you from training, and is still pestering you? What is it and how did it happen? Thanks
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How many hour s of recovery time do you reccomend if I trained my shoulder for say,about 2 hours.
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Everyone is different.....
It should be looked at by a physician.....
Perhaps a local pharmacy/pharmacists could reccomend something over the counter.....
Rest is a key.....
I just struch a question for me,because I have very stocky shoulders,yet my arms are so small.
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rest and mild constant movement.....people tend to restrict and not move a injured area....ok at first....
Still...a doc ought to look at it....
At my small arms?
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Small in girth of length?
As in lack of muscle definition.I carry heavy bokken,and they get easier to carry,but my muscle definition remains meek.of coarse I doalways stretch my arms.
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so i guess i fall in the list of an overtraining martial artist huh?
3 hours a day, 5 days a week?
I don't consider it overtraining, just very dedicated.
actually!!!
my worse injuries have never came from this type of training.my worse injury came from a backflip that i landed wrong on and i messed my lower back up badddd, yet not bad enough to where i couldn't walk. (well i could, but it hurt extremely bad)
my other worse one came from too much commitment to a side kick, and i nearly popped my leg out of place.
you all have heard these stories before, but hey......
I have another question...is overtraining so bad?
i mean if you don't get injured of course
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so i guess i fall in the list of an overtraining martial artist huh?
3 hours a day, 5 days a week?
I don't consider it overtraining, just very dedicated.
actually!!!
my worse injuries have never came from this type of training.my worse injury came from a backflip that i landed wrong on and i messed my lower back up badddd, yet not bad enough to where i couldn't walk. (well i could, but it hurt extremely bad)
my other worse one came from too much commitment to a side kick, and i nearly popped my leg out of place.
you all have heard these stories before, but hey......
I have another question...is overtraining so bad?
i mean if you don't get injured of course
Overtraining is not the same as dedication, in my book. When I state over-training, it is of over bearing or too much stress beyond reason.
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Overtraining is not the same as dedication, in my book. When I state over-training, it is of over bearing or too much stress beyond reason.
ok then, but if you have so much ambition, then you would enjoy over training and bearing all that stress (not saying i do like it)
and when will you ever know you are overtraining???????
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An ant on the move does more than a dozing ox.
Lao Tzu
"Be the change that you want to see in the world.. Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have imagined. Our truest life is when we are in dreams awake."
Defending yourself, your beliefs, or your individuality is never easy as it only brings conflict....just look at the news, your school, or a Martial arts forum.....
ok then, but if you have so much ambition, then you would enjoy over training and bearing all that stress (not saying i do like it)
and when will you ever know you are overtraining???????
I have the same question. I like training hard to the point where I
have to quit. In my opinion it makes you stronger. Like holding push ups for longer than you think you can. Or low stances. I like the fact that my mind has dominance and control over my body. If every, or nearly every muscle in my body is sore, I know I have had a productive workout. I guess I'm just arrogant, but that's just the way I am. Tuff it out. This attitude is what keeps me from taking medication. The attitude that makes me force myself through pain. I can't help the way I am, but I don't want to do something that I will regret later. I don't see my training hard as unhealthy. As far as having to much stress, that is the beauty of martial arts training. You work really hard while working out, and at the end, all of it is released. (After you meditate and release the tension in your body) I thought working hard was what martial artists were supposed to do.
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