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Styles: Cloak and Sabre,longsword style wuthout a name.
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Originally Posted by sirdarksol
Will point out that one study of 200 people is not a be-all/end-all to an argument. I actually have no opinion on this subject. I have a very low pain tolerance. My wife's is lower, but she also has a disease that magnifies all pain, so I have no idea the truth of this, as we are a bad pair to explain.
As far as taking hits from a bokken, you'll have to just take more hits. I'm presuming that participants in your style pulls their strikes, since a solid hit from a bokken to the clavicle would shatter that bone.
As for teaching a student to take hits to the neck, I'd be really careful with this. Even if you're pulling your swings, a strike to the neck could become tragic. Or a mis-aimed strike could hit the face. Perhaps not as dangerous, but very painful, especially if the nose breaks.
If you're talking about what we were discussing in another thread, when I was talking about ending with the sword against her throat, I was talking more about letting her momentum carry her into the blade, rather than swing at her. (If that's not what you're talking about, never mind).
Many combat groups that utilize solid wood weapons actually require the wearing of gorgets, (hardened leather or metal collars) to protect the neck.
Yes,we only pull back with the blade,no swinging.And in the case of neck shots,they have to stop an inch away from the neck.so were can I get this leather gorget?The worst someone could get is a very mild burn.
The only real blocks I know are in Longsword,not katana,so I probably can apply the same block in broadsword as in katana.
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"If your opponents sword says hello,greet him with two thunder claps."
"If you want your captive to give you honest answers,do not torture them.If you find out the location of their leader,then attacking the threat from its source."
The men is a good idea. Otherwise, if you search for SCA (Society for Creative Anachronisms) and armor, you'll find sites on how to make everything from gauntlets to gorgets, to full suits of hardened leather armor (and more).
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"I don't have the knack of victory at all times. I have only learned how not to miss the right moment." Kenshin Uesugi
"If you confer only with people in your own circle (relatives and friends), their opinions will naturally favor you, rendering them useless." Tsunetomo Yamamoto
"In true dialogue, both sides are willing to change."
Thich Nhat Hanh
The men is a good idea. Otherwise, if you search for SCA (Society for Creative Anachronisms) and armor, you'll find sites on how to make everything from gauntlets to gorgets, to full suits of hardened leather armor (and more).
Heck, I could make something. Or even buy cheap padding or shoulder pads. I think he may wanted something to not alleviate such sensation.
But to seek a conditioning routine to "deaden" this area is not a good idea for it is not needed for future or long term, common lifestyle.
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
Styles: Cloak and Sabre,longsword style wuthout a name.
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I think I'll do that,amke my oiwn leather armour,and then hire professionals to sow metal and keflar into it.
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"If your opponents sword says hello,greet him with two thunder claps."
"If you want your captive to give you honest answers,do not torture them.If you find out the location of their leader,then attacking the threat from its source."
Styles: Cloak and Sabre,longsword style wuthout a name.
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Originally Posted by 47MartialMan
You mean Kevlar? And why use Kevlar, your planning to stop energy from impact or bullet penetration? Kevlar is expensive.
Any hard plastic would do. Stryene, pvc sheeting, simply go to a plastics supplier, or home improvent and pick up some sheeting
I'll try to find one.Whats the price range?How think will it need to be?
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"If your opponents sword says hello,greet him with two thunder claps."
"If you want your captive to give you honest answers,do not torture them.If you find out the location of their leader,then attacking the threat from its source."
Not really, close range and caliber, Kevlar could fail. And the impact if there wasn't penetration, might as well be struck with a concrete bokken.
Just because it could fail, doesn't mean it would be a bad idea to have Kevlar if they have guns in their bokken. At any range, any caliber, Kevlar could fail, but it's better than nothing.
Of course, there's no call for having guns in your bokken. That's a bad idea. Even worse to shoot at each other.
Spinach and MartialMan are right, Kevlar is worthless against a bokken. It's even pretty useless against stabbing instruments, such as a stiletto. Kevlar's strength is that it doesn't part like normal cloth does, so it keeps a bullet from passing through the cloth. It does little to stop the actual impact (old bullet proof vests would stop a police officer from getting a bullet in his lungs, but would still leave him with broken ribs). It's the metal/plastic/ceramic behind the Kevlar that dissipates the impact. Much better (and a bit cheaper) to go with leather and metal, as multiple layers of leather are excellent for soaking up kinetic energy. Many police officers wear heavy leather coats to help them in scuffles and against people with knives.
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"I don't have the knack of victory at all times. I have only learned how not to miss the right moment." Kenshin Uesugi
"If you confer only with people in your own circle (relatives and friends), their opinions will naturally favor you, rendering them useless." Tsunetomo Yamamoto
"In true dialogue, both sides are willing to change."
Thich Nhat Hanh
Styles: Cloak and Sabre,longsword style wuthout a name.
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You state a good point.But thats why I have kevlar sown over leather,the leather minimizes trauma,and steel plates are sewn over the kevlar.Sort of layered for every weapon.oh,and complete,I lnow this may sound paranoid,but is this off topic?
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"If your opponents sword says hello,greet him with two thunder claps."
"If you want your captive to give you honest answers,do not torture them.If you find out the location of their leader,then attacking the threat from its source."
You state a good point.But thats why I have kevlar sown over leather,the leather minimizes trauma,and steel plates are sewn over the kevlar.Sort of layered for every weapon.oh,and complete,I lnow this may sound paranoid,but is this off topic?
I'm not complete, but I don't think so. We took a natural path from you being able to take more bokken hits to the safety (or lack thereof) of taking bokken hits, and how to deal with that. Besides, it's your thread. In my opinion, that gives you a bit more leeway.
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"I don't have the knack of victory at all times. I have only learned how not to miss the right moment." Kenshin Uesugi
"If you confer only with people in your own circle (relatives and friends), their opinions will naturally favor you, rendering them useless." Tsunetomo Yamamoto
"In true dialogue, both sides are willing to change."
Thich Nhat Hanh
Styles: Cloak and Sabre,longsword style wuthout a name.
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Originally Posted by sirdarksol
I'm not complete, but I don't think so. We took a natural path from you being able to take more bokken hits to the safety (or lack thereof) of taking bokken hits, and how to deal with that. Besides, it's your thread. In my opinion, that gives you a bit more leeway.
I guess I'm just warped because in other forums,even when I wasnt meaning to,they acussed me of being off topic to the point of driving my crazy.
Does anyone know of any kenjitsu blocks to take more hits?
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"If your opponents sword says hello,greet him with two thunder claps."
"If you want your captive to give you honest answers,do not torture them.If you find out the location of their leader,then attacking the threat from its source."
what style do you do? I have studied Aikido for a number of years and had many hours of Bokken training, although my style didn't intentionally hit each other in training, there was the ocassional mishap, and I can asure you it would hurt around the head/neck area.
I am curious that you stated your style strikes to the neck, this is very dangerous with a Bokken. Striking to a muscle such as the thigh, or even the shin can be conditioned, but the neck area is very sensitive and even a light blow with a Bokken could have serious and permanent effects. I would be interested in the insurance policy of your school as I bet it wouldn't cover an injury to the neck if this is part of your sylabis
If I wanted to take more hits with a bokken.
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