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You have to post a sign in a very obvious place in the dojo/dojang that reads:
The school/club assumes NO liability for any injuries sustained by any participants in martial arts training or activities.
My Sensei used waivers when I first started but he told me that this is the best way to go. The law will say that no one can waive their rights. If you have this sign hung in an obvious place you can always point to that and say they were adequately warned.
Thanks,
Sensei Tom
You have to post a sign in a very obvious place in the dojo/dojang that reads:
The school/club assumes NO liability for any injuries sustained by any participants in martial arts training or activities.
My Sensei used waivers when I first started but he told me that this is the best way to go. The law will say that no one can waive their rights. If you have this sign hung in an obvious place you can always point to that and say they were adequately warned.
Thanks,
Sensei Tom
Thank you for adding this!! We have a these as well!!
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People are not going to give such effort if they lead normal lives and/or have other carreers.
the question is-
Unless youare going to be a fighter, be in a hardcore environement warraing such, this type of training may seem exorbitant
I don't agree with that at all. Lots of people want to test themselves, and that is the (admittedly smaller) market that would want to train seriously.
Lots of people want to test themselves, and that is the (admittedly smaller) market that would want to train seriously.
Exactly the category that I find myself in. Which is why it took me a long time after returning from Japan to find a martial arts school here in the states that I liked. When I referred to 'training hard,' I didn't mean the amount of time spent training but instead the focus, energy, and physicality put into the training. Most people are simply too lazy to attempt it.
I don't agree with that at all. Lots of people want to test themselves, and that is the (admittedly smaller) market that would want to train seriously.
Hey, dont take it too literal...I'm not saying EVERY career/family person.
And you have posted exactly my point-the smaller market because it is exorbitant.
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
Exactly the category that I find myself in. Which is why it took me a long time after returning from Japan to find a martial arts school here in the states that I liked. When I referred to 'training hard,' I didn't mean the amount of time spent training but instead the focus, energy, and physicality put into the training. Most people are simply too lazy to attempt it.
Oh-training hard and training hardcore seem to have been misrepresented.
Of course, as with anything, people are only going to train as their schedule will allow. Those whom i know with a short schedule, CERTAINLY give it their all (what you term hard) in each session/class.
Are you saying that people train "harder" over there than abroad?
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
Are you saying that people train "harder" over there than abroad?
In my experiences, yes. Given that I've only closely observed martial arts training in Japan and Thailand, I have yet to see a school outside of Asia (specifically in the U.S.) that matches the intensity. However, I don't think it's just martial arts training that they are beating us at. Their overall work ethic just seems a lot better. Probably lends to why Asian school systems are outscoring American schools in math and science.
In my experiences, yes. Given that I've only closely observed martial arts training in Japan and Thailand, I have yet to see a school outside of Asia (specifically in the U.S.) that matches the intensity. However, I don't think it's just martial arts training that they are beating us at. Their overall work ethic just seems a lot better. Probably lends to why Asian school systems are outscoring American schools in math and science.
Indeed, I can somewhat agree.
However, it would seem that everyone is dying to come to America though....hmmmnnnn
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
On the subject of a waiver...Sensei Tom is correct. The law says you cant waive your rights. And would you really want to go through the trouble of going to court in the first place? Waivers are more of a deterrent.
On the subject of training, I agree with 47MM...most people in todays society that are career/family people arent going to be able to train 8 hrs a day every day. But the OP is talking about training training with intensity...even if its only for an hour twice a week. I guess we might also need to define intensity. Getting a sweat? Going until your going to puke? What is intensity?
In my experiences, yes. Given that I've only closely observed martial arts training in Japan and Thailand, I have yet to see a school outside of Asia (specifically in the U.S.) that matches the intensity. However, I don't think it's just martial arts training that they are beating us at. Their overall work ethic just seems a lot better. Probably lends to why Asian school systems are outscoring American schools in math and science.
You don't have to buy it, Unkotare, but the fact of the matter is that we in the U.S. have had it so good for so long that our younger generations have become complacent. I mean, when only about 10 percent of the population actually takes the time and energy to even vote, then you know there's something wrong.
Let me ask you this, how many foreign countries have you visited and looked at the living conditions? How many non-Americans have you talked to about their lives?
I've been to more than 25 countries in Europe, Africa, and Asia, and I'm just telling you what I've seen and experienced up close.
Dont get Unk worked up. I would say that there are plenty of Americans that dont "have it so good". Why else is there a welfare system? And the younger generation as a whole is not complacent. They dont have the same set of values that you do, true. They put their time and energy into what they themselves like, thats the best part of being an American IMHO. I'm sure most people that dont vote dont do it out of laziness, but out of pure spite for the candidates. Our choices ALWAYS suck A$$!
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[color="Navy"][size="4"][font="Arial"]You don't have to buy it, Unkotare, but the fact of the matter is that we in the U.S. have had it so good for so long that our younger generations have become complacent.
That's what one generation has been saying about the next since Noah's sandals were damp. Your comments about being hard working and about comparing students are all nonsense in light of reality, poverty does not equate to diligence, particularly when it results in hopelessness, and voter apathy is as much a measure of political stability being taken for granted as anything else (not to mention the fact that in some countries if you don't vote you'll be fined, imprisoned, or worse). If you want to compare how many thousands and thousands or people from every corner of the world we've met or impress me with your tourbus mileage, go ahead, but its irrelevant to this discussion.
That's what one generation has been saying about the next since Noah's sandals were damp. Your comments about being hard working and about comparing students are all nonsense in light of reality, poverty does not equate to diligence, particularly when it results in hopelessness, and voter apathy is as much a measure of political stability being taken for granted as anything else (not to mention the fact that in some countries if you don't vote you'll be fined, imprisoned, or worse).
Alright, fair enough about poverty. Then consider other comparisons such as education or industrial productivity. It sure looks like we're getting our butts kicked when you look at recent studies.
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If you want to compare how many thousands and thousands or people from every corner of the world we've met or impress me with your tourbus mileage, go ahead, but its irrelevant to this discussion).
I could really care less about impressing anyone, but I do know what I've seen. What is relevantto this discussion is the fact that I've seen a lot of rigorous, no-nonsense training being done overseas and very little being done in the U.S.
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