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Old 07-31-2009, 11:27 AM   #16 (permalink)

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Instead of all of this stuff, you might want to try some of this:

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Instead of all of this stuff, you might want to try some of this:
So Joe...what do you know...

If your going to post here, I am sincerely asking you to restrain from making bad jokes with no humor. Also, you are welcome to post, so long as you put some thought into what your saying (bad jokes don't count), provide an argument if you want, or make a RELEVANT comment. Contribute thoughtfully in someway or make yourself annoying, though if you do that I'll request your annoyances to be removed.

I have nothing against you, I am not insulting you, singling you out, or the such and would appreciate it if you did the same. As your quote would seem to indicate...

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While some may call you strange and somehow that makes you think you're different and therefore cool I say you're a liar and like to make stuff up and therefore are NOT cool.
I am concerned that you may begin a trolling campaign to destroy this thread and fill it will annoyances, childish jokes, and nonsense. I believe trolling is forbidden and if I feel you are attempting to troll this thread I will report it to a moderator. I do not mind CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, its always welcome.

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Old 07-31-2009, 12:57 PM   #18 (permalink)

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He does have a poi t there Joe... You can't prove it doesn't work until you've tried it. For. Martial artist, you ain't that open minded man:d
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I'm about as open-minded as people come... but there is no scientific basis for this whatsoever

while I wouldnt take as harsh of a stance as Joe does, that is just a difference in how we respond to such ludicrous claims

Show me the science, then we can talk about taking this seriously
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while I wouldnt take as harsh of a stance as Joe does, that is just a difference in how we respond to such ludicrous claims

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Well show me the science of why a rainbow makes you smile
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it doesnt. I hate rainbows. filthy things, trying to be all show-offy and colorful
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while I wouldnt take as harsh of a stance as Joe does, that is just a difference in how we respond to such ludicrous claims

Show me the science, then we can talk about taking this seriously
As I stated before I am just beginning an experiment to collect intellectual data. It will take somewhere between 1 to 2 years to finish, and it is possible that there will be no results, though if there are then it will be objective evidence that many have asked for...which is reasonable...since your right that there is currently no basis other then a few subjective claims.

So it might take some time, in the meantime I will also be doing other experiments which I am much more open to discuss. The scientific collecting of data is still in its infantile stages...I'll do what I can to provide scientific evidence...I have already worked out some ideas now its a matter of executing them.
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right, I understand that it will take time to collect the data for whether or not this works

but before you go into it, you should research the scientific basis for the possibility/potential of it working

for instance, the studies that show improved reading speeds/comprehension when you rapidly flash letters/words in front of a person's eyes as opposed to normal reading.

what is your basis?
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LMFAO

I suppose if every single person simply waited for the science there would be no science...just a bunch of waiting people...lol

As to the science of the rainbow making people smile...I think that it could be possible to come up with evidence if both physicists and psychologists worked together to derive an answer and evidence to support their claims...that is if they worked out a theory first.

I could work up a hypothesis, polish it into a theory and then test it...but for me its good enough that they do make me smile. Besides, my hands are full. If I am correct, basically what your saying is that not all things can be either understood or known through science or that science can not provide all the answers to all of life's mysteries...in which case I agree.


What exactly is advancement anyways...(hint...there is no objective way to answer this question)...
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right, I understand that it will take time to collect the data for whether or not this works

but before you go into it, you should research the scientific basis for the possibility/potential of it working

for instance, the studies that show improved reading speeds/comprehension when you rapidly flash letters/words in front of a person's eyes as opposed to normal reading.

what is your basis?
At first I thought you where asking for the basis as to why I developed this in the first place and my head almost exploded as I cannot really answer that fully, after learning philosophy at the age of 16 I developed a keen desire to learn as much as I could about everything I could and to polish the philosophic workings of my mind. I got into philosophy because I read it would contribute to my martial arts. I got into martial arts for other reasons (too much fighting as a kid, figured it would whip me in shape...for the ladies...I wanted to by limber and able to move my body more...etc). So...after 12 years of studying anything I could get my hands on all that information coalesced into the development of the mind portal.


Now I can get to answering your question. After developing the Mind Portal, which I originally developed to coordinate my time more effectively I got an strange feeling there was more to it then that and soon realized it could be spun. I then got a strong sense in my mind that doing so would likely produce some sort of effect, though I hadn't a clue what. So I decided to investigate it myself and find out what I could. Three years later I find my world is no longer what it was, as I have had some very interesting experiences after conducting experiments on myself and this left me with the challenge as to how to find out how legimate these experiences where and if they where, then how to operate this portal/map as best as possible.

The basis for my study is based on my experiences and the few reports of others who have worked with it a little. I am looking for answers myself for myself, because I will not be able to rest until I understand fully myself what is happening. Because my mind is eager to know I have developed many hypothesis and 1 theory to date. If those experiences where delusional I will rest better knowing this and if not I will rest better knowing that I did not throw away one of the most exciting developments in my life...one that does stray away from the everyday normal mundane reality that I knew beforehand. The Universe I live in became hundreds of times more fascinating and rewarding then it was before all this.


I know this isn't the full answer, which is still hard to pin down, but it is the primal part of the full answer, the most pertinent. The rest of the answer involves a tremendous amount of mental work that involves taking all the stuff I learned in life and looking for a relationship, a common pattern, and a way that it all complements each other into a better understanding of the world I live in. It would take a long time to go over such details.


The basis is very small at the moment, but if my theory is correct then this basis will solidify and grow...and like JKD or Kajukenbo...continue to be developed for the time to come. If that theory or even 10% of it is correct, then this could be one heck of an important discovery. I hope so...naturally...but remain as conservative as I can myself as I await results and ponder new and better ways to perform tests that can provide objective evidence.
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I am a skeptic as well. As much as I like reading science fictions and fantasy novels, that is what they are, fictions. If you really can do what you claim you can do, that is to control time or some degree of it, what kind of human being are you? Are you saying that you are a new breed of X men?
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Mark me as a skeptic...a strong skeptic. I think the only results this will produce will be headaches.
However, you can't be sure since you've never used it. This isn't guess work, if your correct then I intend to find the proof this is so, and if not likewise. Of the people who have use it, no one has reported a headache yet, where as they have reported other things. Thus, based on what scanty evidence there currently is it does not appear to give a head ache.

I have used it and felt blood pumping through my mind, but that wasn't a head ache. I've had that same sensation when studying hard or applying my mind at work.

It is only fair to mention that I predicted a long time ago that using a constant speed rate to observe a spin can give a head ache, whereas using a non-constant doesn't. This was based on how the kinetic energy would appear if measured into a graph, for if the speed is constant you'd get a straight line and if you used a non-constant you'll get a spiral of some sort. Human biorhythyms can also be measured and they never make straight lines...unless the person is dead, they make waves and those waves can be converted to another format, an attractor. In natural geometry we find attractions present everywhere in fractal matter. It is a consistent pattern of all physical matter. Thus, if viewing this influences some of those biorhythyms, especially in the mind that perceives and translated the images into sensations, the constant speed rate likely exerts an influence that is inconsistent with the nature of the biorhythyms within the mind, and that is not conducive to a healthy rhythym; whereas a non-constant would exert no such influence.


After putting this idea to the test I found that when observing non-constant spin rates there was no head-ache. I, at one point in time, placed a pattern onto an electric motor that would provide a constant rate and after viewing it for about one and a half hours it gave a pinching headache that lasted until the next day. I was testing to see if my hypothesis about constant rates and non-constant rates would be consistent with my prediction, as so far that has been the case. The only way to get at a more objective answer would be to do more testing, and if the results are the same each time we will know better what is the real case. For me, it is not enough to make a guess and leave it at that.
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I am a skeptic as well. As much as I like reading science fictions and fantasy novels, that is what they are, fictions. If you really can do what you claim you can do, that is to control time or some degree of it, what kind of human being are you? Are you saying that you are a new breed of X men?
This is one of the reasons why I am looking for better ways to test this and authenticate what is happening, and better understand what is really happening. I think it is quite natural and normal that there is a great deal of skepticism.

To clarify, since it appears you misinterpreted what my claims where, I said that this alters one's senses and perception of time when used...they do no gain the ability to shut off or turn on this altered perception as with a switch. The changes are gradual, occurring after several days and increasing as one continues to observe. If one stops, the perceptive shifts back to normal, usually about as slowly as it did to get where it was.

So far, when I have used this I have not been able to control what I see, I just see it. I have not been able to control my perception of time, I simply observe it. This is using a very specialized code, and most of the experiences from using this code are involuntary, yet extremely interesting nonetheless.

When we start talking about control, I do think it is possible to control results by controlling the systems that go on the wheel and in the maps. For example, if you place words into the map this will alter the results as opposed to a checkered pattern. And, if this is correct, then the question is how to formulate the most effective patterns and put them to use.


There is a science to this, and that will reveal either that this is exerting a influence on the mind or not. If not, then the science will put it to rest. If so, then how do we manipulate that influence and use this as a tool.
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