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Old 08-01-2009, 07:06 AM   #31 (permalink)

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He does have a poi t there Joe... You can't prove it doesn't work until you've tried it. For. Martial artist, you ain't that open minded man:d
Who said martial artists have to be open minded? :S

And there's open minded... And crazy minded... This is crazy minded.
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:43 AM   #32 (permalink)

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I am concerned that you may begin a trolling campaign to destroy this thread and fill it will annoyances, childish jokes, and nonsense. I believe trolling is forbidden and if I feel you are attempting to troll this thread I will report it to a moderator. I do not mind CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, its always welcome.

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He does have a poi t there Joe... You can't prove it doesn't work until you've tried it. For. Martial artist, you ain't that open minded man:d
I kind of agree with you Chad being that I'm very laid back when it comes to the "each to their own" idea. Unless I consider them to be inherently harmful, I'm not going to criticize someone's works and beliefs if I myself have not explored such avenues.

I also kind of disagree with you though on martial artists being open minded. To me martial arts has to be as streamlined and efficient as possible. Tangents can be fun but unless they have yielded positive consequences in previous experience, most martial artists aren't going to waste time pursuing them.



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Depends if you're religious or not. If you're religious then it usually has something to do with renewal and safety and covenants and what not. If you're not religious then it's because your hunting leprechauns.



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Mark me as a skeptic...a strong skeptic. I think the only results this will produce will be headaches.
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I am a skeptic as well. As much as I like reading science fictions and fantasy novels, that is what they are, fictions. If you really can do what you claim you can do, that is to control time or some degree of it, what kind of human being are you? Are you saying that you are a new breed of X men?
Well, I can't really be too skeptical seeing as I am of a religious persuasion. To me it seems that this is a mind focusing exercise as opposed to an actual ability to manipulate time. Look at it this way; have you ever had a dream that seemed to be really long but when you woke up very little actual time had passed? I've had quite a few of those so I'm open to the idea that one can train the mind to perceive time at different rates of acceleration. And humans have done and still engage in a number of strange practices to enhance / alter their perceptions.



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Old 08-01-2009, 09:35 AM   #33 (permalink)

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Old 08-01-2009, 11:45 AM   #34 (permalink)

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Ok, mathematically speaking by taking an item that is essentially a spiral and spinning it you are not creating any unknown or un-mappable patterns. Rather, you are drawing your eye subtly inward making you think that somehow or another that the wheel is expanding and changing.

What you have created is an optical illusion. What you have done is hypnotized yourself.



If, however, you want to scientifically test if your reflexes are significantly better than other people, here is an experiment you can do.

You will need: A meter stick and volunteers.
Have one volunteer (the judge) hold the meter stick by the 100cm end and let it hang freely more than 1m above the ground. Have a second volunteer (the catcher) ready his hand at the 0cm side to catch the meter stick as it falls (without moving his hand up or down). Next the judge will drop the meter stick giving no sign to the catcher that he is about to do so. The catcher will attempt to catch the meter stick as soon as it is dropped. Have them do this a few times each.

With each volunteer you will be able to record the distance the meter stick dropped. People with slower reactions speeds will let the meter stick drop farther than those with faster reaction speeds. You can then convert distance to time with a little bit of algebra and this formula.

d = 1/2 * g * t^2
(d is distance in meters, t is time in seconds, g is gravity, 9.81 meters per second squared)

If your claim is true, you should have significantly better reaction times than any of the volunteers that you can get.
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:46 PM   #35 (permalink)

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Chapel has a very good idea.
I think it is much more likely that the wheel is tricking your mind into precieving time differently and seeing things. Much like some drugs or hypnotisim. But there is a chance that it is actually a good mental exercise that helps the mind. There are many kinds of exercises for reflexes perhaps this one is just a bit more off the wall. And maybe it is something more, I am sceptical but hopeful. If it works it maybe everyone will use it someday.
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I dont really understand what chapel was suggesting there. I can't relate to the mathematical concept things but he must be good at it to be able to explain it tht way. God married me to a math teacher to complement my lack of math he he he.
This mind over things are taken to far sometimes. You have to accept the fact that there are certain matters tha a human beings cannot control.
If you say you can manipulate time that it slows down for you, what good does it bring you. Is this an effort to make up for your shortcoming, not being able to manage your 24 hours a day wisely?
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I dont really understand what chapel was suggesting there. I can't relate to the mathematical concept things but he must be good at it to be able to explain it tht way. God married me to a math teacher to complement my lack of math he he he.
It's a simple reflex test but by no means perfect. Because it utilizes gravity as the driving force it attempts to ensure that the ruler drops consistently at the same speed. However there are a number of problems with the test, most obviously:
1. The individuals involved may just be naturally faster in their reaction times. A much larger sample of individuals is needed.
2. There is nothing to stop the catcher involuntarily moving their hands upwards or downwards on the catch. There needs to be a physical stopper to better mitigate vertical hand movement.
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Yes the test is not perfect, but if his machine works half as well as he thinks it does then he should win by a mile compared to the other person even a quick one. Though he should try a few other tests as well.
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It's a simple reflex test but by no means perfect. Because it utilizes gravity as the driving force it attempts to ensure that the ruler drops consistently at the same speed. However there are a number of problems with the test, most obviously:
1. The individuals involved may just be naturally faster in their reaction times. A much larger sample of individuals is needed.
2. There is nothing to stop the catcher involuntarily moving their hands upwards or downwards on the catch. There needs to be a physical stopper to better mitigate vertical hand movement.
I cede both points to you. This won't test who much better his reflexes are, just whether they are or not. Real tests conducted under better circumstances could then be used to figure out other details.

Although, I almost guarantee you that you can get a similar effect looking at this: http://www.richrock.com/gifs/optical...s-rotating.png
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I cede both points to you. This won't test who much better his reflexes are, just whether they are or not. Real tests conducted under better circumstances could then be used to figure out other details.

Although, I almost guarantee you that you can get a similar effect looking at this: http://www.richrock.com/gifs/optical...s-rotating.png
That's a still image right?
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Social phsychology

Human beings behaviour and emotional reactions to things in the world around them can either be of the instinctive or of the learnt variety.

It is often studied and agreed that if a parent has a particular preference for a certain type of scenery or certain colour or design pattern that children with that parents care will also be led into the desire to appriciate such things.

We could draw rainbows into this category, it is a social peculiarity that when a child is young at any point a rainbow appears the parents or more senior social influence in the area will often point out the rainbow and declare it a good thing, influencing the child to associate rainbows with a positive social interaction which often results in the expression of pleasure refered to as a smile.



Individual psychology

When an individual experienced an unexpected display of pleasent but someone block grouped colours it is common to see a positive reaction in the mind.

People exposed to sudden flashes of individual colours often show lower brain activity and less of a positive emotional responce to people who are suddenly exposed to a wide array of closely associated colours.

It appears to be an instinctive reaction of humans to be pleased by a wide array of base colours in close association.




On top of this with we look at the social historic psychological references most such things point to rainbows as miracles... which is not hard to suprise considering most of these references come about before the science to describe what a rainbow is. As a rainbow was benign and caused no damage to anyone a majority of of these references became positive. Some groups even associating the appearence of such light matrici as a message or appearence of a dieity or benign being.




Well thats the basic science.
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That's a still image right?
Yes thats a still image. it uses optical compensation theory.

If you truely FOCUS on one point then it will stop moving, but you can't move your eyes the slightest bit. if they move at all the whole thing starts moving.

Focus on one black centre, and stare at it wil all your might. If you can truely focus your eyes on one point it will stop moving.
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Yes thats a still image. it uses optical compensation theory.

If you truely FOCUS on one point then it will stop moving, but you can't move your eyes the slightest bit. if they move at all the whole thing starts moving.

Focus on one black centre, and stare at it wil all your might. If you can truely focus your eyes on one point it will stop moving.
I stopped them all moving.
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