Last nights workout...

[Gambatte Karate]

Now I remember why I don't do BJJ! I'm not that flexible! LOL My limbs don't bend like that anymore. I'm still skinny (6'4" and 175lbs) but my joints are crap now. I've been mean to my body thus far in life, and now I'm paying for it. LOL Oh well...

[TRIANGLEFROMGAURD]

Originally Posted by Gambatte Karate

Now I remember why I don't do BJJ! I'm not that flexible! LOL My limbs don't bend like that anymore. I'm still skinny (6'4" and 175lbs) but my joints are crap now. I've been mean to my body thus far in life, and now I'm paying for it. LOL Oh well...

LOL it's not that bad though. Thats not his opponents leg it's his his so it's not that flexible.

[Zaraki Kenpachi]

Originally Posted by TRIANGLEFROMGAURD

Kind of like this?

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Turn the head so the face is against the body. Then reach around and grab a leg too.

[Gambatte Karate]

I know how to do an armbar. LMAO!

[Zaraki Kenpachi]

Everytime I try an arm bar people I never get my knees close enough. I think they are close and then sensai comes by and pushes them closer and the guy goes crazy tapping.

Although, we do execute most of our armbars from standing up. But I figured we were talking about rolling. (actually I wouldnt call what I do rolling, but it was the most accurate way to convey what is going on.)

[TRIANGLEFROMGAURD]

Originally Posted by drallig9399

Turn the head so the face is against the body. Then reach around and grab a leg too.

I know what you are talking about it's called a cradle crank Bas use to use it all the time in king of pancrase.

[TRIANGLEFROMGAURD]

Originally Posted by drallig9399

Everytime I try an arm bar people I never get my knees close enough. I think they are close and then sensai comes by and pushes them closer and the guy goes crazy tapping.

From guard?

[Gambatte Karate]

Originally Posted by drallig9399

Everytime I try an arm bar people I never get my knees close enough. I think they are close and then sensai comes by and pushes them closer and the guy goes crazy tapping.

Although, we do execute most of our armbars from standing up. But I figured we were talking about rolling.

My students don't have that problem, they usually sit down with their rearend too far away from their partner and don't have the elbow in the proper location for leverage.

[Zaraki Kenpachi]

Originally Posted by TRIANGLEFROMGAURD

From guard?

Actually now that I think about it I cant really get an armbar when I'm trying to do submission grappling. It normally comes from a headlock defense.

Originally Posted by Gambatte Karate

My students don't have that problem, they usually sit down with their rearend too far away from their partner and don't have the elbow in the proper location for leverage.

Oh I def do that too.

[Gambatte Karate]

We do it from standing.

Attacker steps in with a right punch. (making it now right foot forward)

Defender pivots back, and does a right inside middle block, grabbing the wrist. then does a left crescent kick to attackers head knocking then down to one knee. This places the attackers Defender then hooks the attackers neck with their left heel and turns counter clockwise. Allthewhile holding onto attackers wrist. Defended then sits down with rearend by attackers shoulder, lays back, and currently has attackers arm between the legs. Push hips up until they tap or snap. Oh yeah, as if you didn't already know, the attackers palm must be facing up. I'll try to take a video of it tonight going slo-mo and put it on youtube for a day or so.

[Joemoplata]

In order to really make sure you have the armbard fully secured, there are a few key elements that need to be executed correctly.

- Always make sure you are attacking the elbow at it's correct angle. You should have the opponents hand with his thumb facing away from your chest. It would be easy to say "thumb towards the ceiling" but that only works when you are executing with your back on the ground.

- Control the wrist/hand in order to ensure that you can accomplish point # 1. But I always suggest not doing this until you have full control of the arm and are ready to straighten out.

- You need one leg over his head and that leg should be bent not straight. This leg should be attemptint to squeeze his head between your heel and your buttocks. Keep the foot on the ground or at least pushing toward the ground HARD.

- The other leg's location is not as critical, however you should be trying to get that knee as close to the other knee as possible. This is your "clamp". If the foot is on the other side of his body (same as the leg over the head) you should also be trying to bring that heel to your buttocks.

- Control his whole arm from at least the elbow until you are ready to extend (sit back if from the top position). When you do sit back, do not go flat...bring his arm with you and start extending your hips forward LONG before your back hits the ground.

I will see if I can find a good video of this with some of the finer details made obvious.

[Joemoplata]

This, actually, is a pretty decent tutorial for the armbar from the mount:

YouTube - Armbar from Mount

[Gambatte Karate]

Well Joe, I can't find our other thread....But I just got back from Gracie Tampa. No vids. Sorry guys. It was all rolling, no striking. That sux for me, but I played anyway. I got submitted 7 times by a guy my own size, and 3 times by another guy who was about 30 lbs more than me. It was odd, to me, to start off on our knees and go from there.

It was a blast anyway. As I told everyone, we do almost NO ground work in our system. There is some there, but we don't concentrate on it a lot. I was sweating my ass off in there. I never did get to see Rob though.

The really odd part to me was the seemingly complete lack of organization. Although it was a open mat night, I felt there should have been someone who was obviously in charge, and that was not the case. Maybe I just came on a bad night. I dunno. There were about 9 guys there in one room, while the women were in the other room. After the third time being submitted, I jokingly asked if I should go over with the women. Everyone got a laugh out of that. Two of the guys were only working on striking, and I wanted in on that, but they said no, two other guys were working on what looked like Judo, but I could be wrong. The rest were rolling. Tough workout, but I still didn't get hit in the face. Oh well....Maybe next time.

[john55]

Originally Posted by Gambatte Karate

Well Joe, I can't find our other thread....But I just got back from Gracie Tampa. No vids. Sorry guys. It was all rolling, no striking. That sux for me, but I played anyway. I got submitted 7 times by a guy my own size, and 3 times by another guy who was about 30 lbs more than me. It was odd, to me, to start off on our knees and go from there.

It was a blast anyway. As I told everyone, we do almost NO ground work in our system. There is some there, but we don't concentrate on it a lot. I was sweating my ass off in there. I never did get to see Rob though.

The really odd part to me was the seemingly complete lack of organization. Although it was a open mat night, I felt there should have been someone who was obviously in charge, and that was not the case. Maybe I just came on a bad night. I dunno. There were about 9 guys there in one room, while the women were in the other room. After the third time being submitted, I jokingly asked if I should go over with the women. Everyone got a laugh out of that. Two of the guys were only working on striking, and I wanted in on that, but they said no, two other guys were working on what looked like Judo, but I could be wrong. The rest were rolling. Tough workout, but I still didn't get hit in the face. Oh well....Maybe next time.

Thats awesome that you tried it. You should definitely try a class though as well. Open Mat is generally just people rolling. No formal instruction. When you go to actual class, you will generally do a group warm up, the instructor will show you a series of techniques that you work with a partner on, and then you will roll.

My class generally starts from the ground to. The main reason being lack of space. If we want to start standing, we are more than welcome though, we just need to go to a different part of the mat. We always have guys in my school working on judo, wrestling etc techniques such as takedowns and throws. Sometimes we even have judo or wrestlers teach our class when working on something from their system that bjj doesnt cover as well. My school is very open to doing what works and using things from other systems when needed...one being the takedowns and takedown defense of wrestling and the throws/trips of judo.

And my first 5 classes or so, I was getting submitted every few seconds until I learned some basic defense which helped me from most of the white belts for at least a few minutes.

[Torre]

I just got home from a 4 day training camp about two hours ago, and I'm pretty much dead. 6 hours of training a day, plus a random night class, hot sun, lots of conditioning and hard sparring. I can barely move now but it was awesome