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Old 07-29-2008, 12:30 PM   #16 (permalink)

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Ok, so MOST of us have done it in the past or currently. What did you find worked best for you?
In practice trying not to get stabbed is nice but in practice doing crowd control in the Army, rushing the attacker throws them off guard. In many cases a person will draw a weapon to intimidate more then actually use. So when you rush in on them, you have two most common responses; they either draw away or freak out and attack.

Technique wise, strikes work good to distract. Your highly unlikely to catch the hand when they thrust at you. Ironically, few people know that a stab is more fatal then a slash.
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I said at BROWN BELT level we learn to dodge.

The whole flying and being indestructable thing comes with that very elusive black belt.
Ahh Thanks for clearing that up. I don't feel so disapointed now. So does the spandex chaffe? Also, doesn't the cape really get in the way? Just questions I wanted to ask when I got to talk to a real super hero. LOL

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I said at BROWN BELT level we learn to dodge.

The whole flying and being indestructable thing comes with that very elusive black belt.
Thats also when you get lazer eye beams too isn't it?
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Thats also when you get lazer eye beams too isn't it?
That comes in at 2nd dan I think.

Is this what you guys do Joe?

YouTube - The Matrix Bullet Dodge

Or is it this one? YouTube - Dodging Bullets
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That comes in at 2nd dan I think.

Is this what you guys do Joe?

YouTube - The Matrix Bullet Dodge

Or is it this one? YouTube - Dodging Bullets
Thats obviously sooooooooo fake

This is how it's done for real!

YouTube - Remo Williams bullet dodge
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Thats obviously sooooooooo fake

This is how it's done for real!

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My curriculum hasn't included any weapons training of any kind at all. But I wasn't really looking for that, I think I would find that oddly boring which is weird, I know.

We do learn how to dodge bullets though at the Brown Belt level.

It would seem that such weapon defense could be easily incorporated with current skills that you have been working on anyway....

Other trad weapons could/would be useless...
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To speak of knife defense and weapon defense. I think it is extremely important to point out to students that their fists and feet will never compare to using a weapon.

I know this point is arguable. But if you had the goodluck to pull a baseball bat from an attacker in a large confrontation. What would you rather use to fight the rest of them. Your fists or your handy dandy baseball bat?
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In my art, we have trainings to counter knife linear attacks to different parts of the body using real knives. But the attacks and responses were predetermined by the instructors which make the whole session somewhat unreal. I still wouldn't know how to respond to a knife attacker coming slashing his knife all over the place.
However, prior to the knife training, we had to undergo a test.
I would like to tell you one frightening experience involving such a test. After completing the syllabus and reaching a specific level, all trainees have to undergo a test. It is a test to determine whether you have mastered the correct way of basic blockings. After all this while, trainees have been blocking empty-hand punches. Add a real knife to the hand, the test become more of a test of courage, nerve, your confidence in the arts and timing. This is how it goes. It is an individual test, just between you and the head instructor. The head instuctor will be the one holding the knife (real knife, sharp). He will stab you (in full force and speed) to three specified areas of your body(the chest, stomach and from the side) and he will tell you which block he wants you to do. At first, he will stab you with the knife sheathed, giving you a chance to practise your block. This will certainly test your nerves. Him, being a trained martial artist for so long already, normally reach his target in a blink of an eye, meaning you would have been gutted there and then if the blade had touched your body. He would give you a few tries (build up you confidence) before he unsheath the knife and he stab you with the blade. Most of us become nervous wrecks at this point in time. The philosophy behind this test is that, properly executed blocks to a knife attack is crucial before you can mount a counter attack. The head instructor will do this with two more types of blocks before he proceed with the primary test. This time he will stab you again. However, he will not say where his target will be or which block you will use. It is your decision, depending on the attack directed at you.
I came away from the test so relief that the naked blade didn't touch me. However, my chest and stomach was bruised after I was struck there twice with the sheathed blade. The whole test scared the hell out of me.
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In my art, we have trainings to counter knife linear attacks to different parts of the body using real knives. But the attacks and responses were predetermined by the instructors which make the whole session somewhat unreal. I still wouldn't know how to respond to a knife attacker coming slashing his knife all over the place.
However, prior to the knife training, we had to undergo a test.
I would like to tell you one frightening experience involving such a test. After completing the syllabus and reaching a specific level, all trainees have to undergo a test. It is a test to determine whether you have mastered the correct way of basic blockings. After all this while, trainees have been blocking empty-hand punches. Add a real knife to the hand, the test become more of a test of courage, nerve, your confidence in the arts and timing. This is how it goes. It is an individual test, just between you and the head instructor. The head instuctor will be the one holding the knife (real knife, sharp). He will stab you (in full force and speed) to three specified areas of your body(the chest, stomach and from the side) and he will tell you which block he wants you to do. At first, he will stab you with the knife sheathed, giving you a chance to practise your block. This will certainly test your nerves. Him, being a trained martial artist for so long already, normally reach his target in a blink of an eye, meaning you would have been gutted there and then if the blade had touched your body. He would give you a few tries (build up you confidence) before he unsheath the knife and he stab you with the blade. Most of us become nervous wrecks at this point in time. The philosophy behind this test is that, properly executed blocks to a knife attack is crucial before you can mount a counter attack. The head instructor will do this with two more types of blocks before he proceed with the primary test. This time he will stab you again. However, he will not say where his target will be or which block you will use. It is your decision, depending on the attack directed at you.
I came away from the test so relief that the naked blade didn't touch me. However, my chest and stomach was bruised after I was struck there twice with the sheathed blade. The whole test scared the hell out of me.
Sounds similiar to some test I've had. Scares the hell out of you, but makes you know you earned that next level.
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Oh...and Joe, I asked my instructor about the bullet dodging thing. He said it's reserved for the 4th dan and above. At that point we have the secret society thing as well. I feel so left out now.
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I know dude it's one of the best movies. What was his trainers name it's like arrhhhhhh what the hell was it? "You move like pregnant yak!"
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I'm just a low rank practitioner, but I think that running would be a good solution to line 'em up, when you have multiple attackers. People have different running speeds, and when you run, on of them is eventually gonna have the closer distance to you. And then, I think the kotegasehi technique of Aikido should work. Or at least, I hope so . Cause it really applies pain to your wrist for the sake of breaking it.
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I know dude it's one of the best movies. What was his trainers name it's like arrhhhhhh what the hell was it? "You move like pregnant yak!"
Chiun. His name was Chiun.

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