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Old 07-30-2008, 08:10 AM   #31 (permalink)

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The only knife defense technique in my arsenal is the 400 meter sprint
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:01 AM   #33 (permalink)

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What if they can run faster/longer than you?
I'm screwed I simply have no idea of weapon defense and never done such training. It is a gap I should fill, but no time/money/energy.
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I'll post a video either today or tomorrow of my most effective knife defense that I have and works best for me. It's actually quite simple.
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Sounds interesting. Looking forward to it!
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I'm screwed I simply have no idea of weapon defense and never done such training. It is a gap I should fill, but no time/money/energy.
Well my experiences its never a good idea to turn your back on an armed attacker (or a seemingly unarmed attacker). Had a buddy of mine get hit in the back with a knife (not stabbed hit by the handle). Even when you drop someone or plan to run away; never take your eyes off them until you reach some sort of cover (a physical object that offers protection) or concealment (anything that alter or hides your appearance).

I thought both Wado-Ryu and Capiora had knife-defense/combat included in their systems.
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Well my experiences its never a good idea to turn your back on an armed attacker (or a seemingly unarmed attacker). Had a buddy of mine get hit in the back with a knife (not stabbed hit by the handle). Even when you drop someone or plan to run away; never take your eyes off them until you reach some sort of cover (a physical object that offers protection) or concealment (anything that alter or hides your appearance).

I thought both Wado-Ryu and Capiora had knife-defense/combat included in their systems.
WOW... We agree on something!!! Never turn your back... In the Army you learn that it is harder for someone to shoot you closer then further away. It seems crazy but they have done all kinds of studies on it. The closer you are to someone shooting you the more scarred tehy are.
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WOW... We agree on something!!! Never turn your back... In the Army you learn that it is harder for someone to shoot you closer then further away. It seems crazy but they have done all kinds of studies on it. The closer you are to someone shooting you the more scarred tehy are.
Read the book; On Killing. The Author is a ret. Col who did I study how the U.S. Military uses our training exercises to condition us to kill and how those exercises actually work under stress. From his data, basically even someone could kill you with a single strike (big if) they'd be reserved to do so on an instinctual level.

Also; just for added thought there are four types of actions a person has with inter-species confrontation posture, fight, flight, or submit. Posturing is making yourself seem more threatening (talking trash, pulling a weapon, puffing up to look bigger etc.), hoping the person will submit. Of course submission is a no brainer.
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Well my experiences its never a good idea to turn your back on an armed attacker (or a seemingly unarmed attacker). Had a buddy of mine get hit in the back with a knife (not stabbed hit by the handle). Even when you drop someone or plan to run away; never take your eyes off them until you reach some sort of cover (a physical object that offers protection) or concealment (anything that alter or hides your appearance).

I thought both Wado-Ryu and Capiora had knife-defense/combat included in their systems.
Wado indeed has some knife defense stuff, but from what I've seen from it, it looks ineffective, though it's only taught at black belt level for some reason. As for capoeira, those techniques would be more geared towards the navalha(straight razor), and more offensive then defensive, though this can vary a lot from group to group. And if you mean the machete stuff, that's nothing more than a dance, that isn't even part of capoeira just tags along, so to say.
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Running really is your best option because these days only crazy hobbyists, James Bond level spies and circus acts know how to throw a knife with precision. All of those people also know that there are special knives for this.

And really, when running away from a fight you only need to get a bit of attention drawn to you. Random criminals aren't interested in targeting you if you are going to be a pain to mug.

Now, obviously there are exceptions to this, but generally I wouldn't be worried if someone was trying to mug me with a knife from 5+ feet away unless one of his buddies had already circled behind me.
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Wado indeed has some knife defense stuff, but from what I've seen from it, it looks ineffective, though it's only taught at black belt level for some reason. As for capoeira, those techniques would be more geared towards the navalha(straight razor), and more offensive then defensive, though this can vary a lot from group to group. And if you mean the machete stuff, that's nothing more than a dance, that isn't even part of capoeira just tags along, so to say.
Heres a video to check out its pretty realistic stuff YouTube - Paul Vunak - Knife Defence
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Running really is your best option because these days only crazy hobbyists, James Bond level spies and circus acts know how to throw a knife with precision. All of those people also know that there are special knives for this.

And really, when running away from a fight you only need to get a bit of attention drawn to you. Random criminals aren't interested in targeting you if you are going to be a pain to mug.
They can always get lucky with the throw, all I'm saying is to get away but don't take your eyes off the attacker. A mugger with a knife is going to different then a jealous boy friend or some ass hole with a grudge.
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Out of 16 strikes with the marker, the defender got struck 4 times inside of the forearms. this would be a vital, possibly fatal strike. This is why I teach people who are confronted with a knife to keep their hands turned in toward their own chest.

Also, at no time did the defender try to isolate the arm of his attacker or try to disarm the attacker.
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He made a couple of attempts but they weren't successful. Personally, I think they might have been successful if he was more commited to them.
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In MMA training we do a similar drill but with real F'N KNIVES!!!!!!! you pansies. RIP Johnny we miss you bro!!!

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