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Old 05-28-2008, 04:00 PM   #16 (permalink)

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i remember this match. i think the TKD guy was a moron an deserved to get slammed like that. how are u gonna try an start a match like he did against a fresh a fully aware opponent.

and TKD guy also appeared to be one of those types of strikers who think that MMA/ grappler type people dont train to counter against strikes.
they look for stuff like that.
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:02 PM   #17 (permalink)

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well.
MMA is more than one art in a sense. grappling, striking etc.
i do not think any single art which does not utilize striking, and grappling will be sucessful against a MMA practitioner.
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:05 PM   #18 (permalink)

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Do they actually slam like that in wrestling?! This is getting me interested.
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:07 PM   #19 (permalink)

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I think it's more then just the story of one person. I think it's the mindset of a lot of people. This guy obviously thought that his skills were enough to fight an MMA fight he thought he was going to land that one big kick and knock someone out. Because of this he neglected any ground training and got beat like a school .

Not one aspect of MMA is more important then the other but, this shows that you need to be a well rounded fighter not just one dimensional.
good point. 'nuff said.
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Do they actually slam like that in wrestling?! This is getting me interested.
no they dont.
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well.
MMA is more than one art in a sense. grappling, striking etc.
i do not think any single art which does not utilize striking, and grappling will be sucessful against a MMA practitioner.
I think a person's instincts are what is at issue here. My limited street experience did not resemble formal training, my formal training kept me from getting my head handed to me.
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no they dont.
I don't know what it's like in Japan but, here in the states in Greco thats a front head lock slam and it's worth two points
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oh ok.
how about in folk wrestling?
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oh ok.
how about in folk wrestling?
In folk wrestling when I throw, my opponents feet can not go past my head. So I could do the same take down but, not to that extent.
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well.
MMA is more than one art in a sense. grappling, striking etc.
i do not think any single art which does not utilize striking, and grappling will be sucessful against a MMA practitioner.
I agree, its why MMA has been in some ways succsesful, because most traditionlists wont cross train extensivly.

the smart ones do though.
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The TKD guy is a midget

I Think in cage fighting MMA definately has an advantage over TKD. Tkd is a striking art like Muay Thai. For this type of battle u need some ground game as well whicch the TKD guy obviously lacks. If you look at the size differece the TKD guy can't compete with the MMA guy. It appears to be open weight class like the early UFC's
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I Think in cage fighting MMA definately has an advantage over TKD. Tkd is a striking art like Muay Thai. For this type of battle u need some ground game as well whicch the TKD guy obviously lacks. If you look at the size differece the TKD guy can't compete with the MMA guy. It appears to be open weight class like the early UFC's
What kind of fighting do you see TKD having an advantage over MMA besides a TKD tournament?
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If the tkd guy has a decent ground game having cross trained in wrestling or judo it should be a balanced match. I have very good instructors at my school that make sure we practice boxing techniques to combine with our kicking tecniques. Obviously if the tkd practioner gets taken down he'll be at a disadvantage. But there is no reason he wouldn't be able to stand up and strike with th mma guy.
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What kind of fighting do you see TKD having an advantage over MMA besides a TKD tournament?
the same kind a MMA fighter has against a TKD fighter in a MMA cage

so there it is, as we all know one big thing is ........the rules.
so then again the TRUE winner would be decided if their lives were threatened or their safety.......then we'll see
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If the tkd guy has a decent ground game having cross trained in wrestling or judo it should be a balanced match. I have very good instructors at my school that make sure we practice boxing techniques to combine with our kicking tecniques. Obviously if the tkd practioner gets taken down he'll be at a disadvantage. But there is no reason he wouldn't be able to stand up and strike with th mma guy.
Yes, but if he cross trained, he is no longer a TKD guy but an MMA guy.
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