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Old 05-29-2008, 06:09 PM   #31 (permalink)

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Yes, but if he cross trained, he is no longer a TKD guy but an MMA guy.
woah, so i am an MMA guy already?
well then why cant he be just a human being that is expressing his way of fighting? does he have to be labeled by styles? just a question
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:21 PM   #32 (permalink)

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I consider myself more of a JKD concepts guy. I guess you could call mixing different styles MMA. I don't limit myself to any set style or tecniques. I would call TKD & Tang Soo Do my base styles but i incorporate other tecniques to not be a one dimensional martial artists. Sometimes i'll roll with my brother who is an accomplished wrestler. We train Hapkido and Judo at my school, usually after regular class (for senior students.) I also have a master who studied wing chun and boxing who trains us in some boxing tecniques. Though i may incorporate different pieces to form my own particular style of fighting i don't consider myself a MMA guy. To me MMA guys are people who train at fight GYMS focusing on MMA competitions.
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:52 PM   #33 (permalink)

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I consider myself more of a JKD concepts guy. I guess you could call mixing different styles MMA. I don't limit myself to any set style or tecniques. I would call TKD & Tang Soo Do my base styles but i incorporate other tecniques to not be a one dimensional martial artists. Sometimes i'll roll with my brother who is an accomplished wrestler. We train Hapkido and Judo at my school, usually after regular class (for senior students.) I also have a master who studied wing chun and boxing who trains us in some boxing tecniques. Though i may incorporate different pieces to form my own particular style of fighting i don't consider myself a MMA guy. To me MMA guys are people who train at fight GYMS focusing on MMA competitions.
Pretty much every guy in UFC and MMA has a base style as well. for example, BJ Penn is a BJJ guy who has incorporated boxing/MT into his game. Matt hughes is a wreslter who has done the same. You are a TKD/TSD guy who incorporates Judo/wrestling etc. That is MMA. You are training mixed martial arts. Just because you dont train at an mma gym per se, doesnt mean you dont train it. If I trained boxing in my garage and not a boxing gym would you say I trained boxing? I also think JKD is basically the same as MMA and most label it as such. MMA is very abstract at this point, especially in the TMA world...which I get the impression fears it.
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:54 PM   #34 (permalink)

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well then why cant he be just a human being that is expressing his way of fighting? does he have to be labeled by styles? just a question
You can be just a fighter and not labeled. But if you train certain styles, you are using those styles and have to give them credit for the moves you take from them. For example, in your profile you arent just saying fighter are you? You have several styles listed.
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Yes, but if he cross trained, he is no longer a TKD guy but an MMA guy.
or we could all just call ourselves martial artists.
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You can be just a fighter and not labeled. But if you train certain styles, you are using those styles and have to give them credit for the moves you take from them. For example, in your profile you arent just saying fighter are you? You have several styles listed.
true true
i have studied a few styles in my young young days, and im still learning, but in the end when it comes down to it i will call myself a man, not a Karate man, or Kung Fu man, etc


but i see what you are saying with the styles getting credit
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I Think in cage fighting MMA definately has an advantage over TKD. Tkd is a striking art like Muay Thai. For this type of battle u need some ground game as well whicch the TKD guy obviously lacks. If you look at the size differece the TKD guy can't compete with the MMA guy. It appears to be open weight class like the early UFC's
*sigh* Muay thai s not just a striking art.

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sounds like a bruce lee wannabe to me. your cross training its MMA, not jeet kune do, bruce lee was one of the first MMAs, no one can train as a JKD artist.
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dude when did you become the muay thai expert? I mean have you ever gone further than your keyboard , in terms of this art?
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Saying Muay Thai is not just a striking art is like saying BJJ is not just a grappling art.

While they may do a LITTLE bit of grappling in Muay Thai it's primary focus is striking. That is not really even a point of discussion, to be honest, it's raw fact.
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dude when did you become the muay thai expert? I mean have you ever gone further than your keyboard , in terms of this art?
Im simply standing up for the training I did. it wasnt lots, but I had these misconceptions about muay thai and Id like to point out thats its ridiculous to name an art, as intricte as muay thai, a 'striking art'

it has an extensive history.
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Im simply standing up for the training I did. it wasnt lots, but I had these misconceptions about muay thai and Id like to point out thats its ridiculous to name an art, as intricte as muay thai, a 'striking art'

it has an extensive history.
But it is a striking art , like joe said " Saying Muay Thai is not just a striking art is like saying BJJ is not just a grappling art." or looking at Jitsu it may have a fewstrikes but its a grappling art.
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But it is a striking art , like joe said " Saying Muay Thai is not just a striking art is like saying BJJ is not just a grappling art." or looking at Jitsu it may have strikes but its a grappling art.
I think I agree with this logic...your saying that basically Muay thai is primarily striking but it does have some other stuff, so since its 90% or more striking, its in the category of a striking art..right? Just like bjj, although it does have some strikes is considered a ground/grappling art.
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But it is a striking art , like joe said " Saying Muay Thai is not just a striking art is like saying BJJ is not just a grappling art." or looking at Jitsu it may have a fewstrikes but its a grappling art.
okay, thats fair. my fault.
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I think I agree with this logic...your saying that basically Muay thai is primarily striking but it does have some other stuff, so since its 90% or more striking, its in the category of a striking art..right? Just like bjj, although it does have some strikes is considered a ground/grappling art.
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I Think it is kind of funny how atheletes in other sports have cross trained for years but we as MAists seem reluctant to go beyond our own styles. (this is not meant as an all inclusive statement). Also i think cross training in different styles only benefits us as individuals and as a community of MAists.
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