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OMG!!! This is why people call you a troll. As I said it is you who dictates how you are perceived not mean old Joe or me or Sake Sipper. It's posts exactly like these I know you're trying to stir things up or whatever but, at least make some sort of intelligent argument.
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OMG!!! This is why people call you a troll. As I said it is you who dictates how you are perceived not mean old Joe or me or Sake Sipper. It's posts exactly like these I know you're trying to stir things up or whatever but, at least make some sort of intelligent argument.
No. I mean given my term of Mixing Martial Arts, TKD is actually a mix. When it was formed, the heads of some schools got together (supposedly under Choi's leadership) and created a new national art. Therefore it was a Mixture Martial Art.
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
No. I mean given my term of Mixing Martial Arts, TKD is actually a mix. When it was formed, the heads of some schools got together (supposedly under Choi's leadership) and created a new national art. Therefore it was a Mixture Martial Art.
Holy christ...
Just delete all his ramblings and leave only relevant posts..see how much his post count drops.
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47MM, do you keep arguing this just to keep irritating the MMA people? This posting about the accepted wording and meaning behind those wordings is getting old.
Here are a couple of terms and thier accepted definitions;
MMA = sport martial art using all ranges of combat
kung fu = Chinese martial arts
Now get over it and please start using your intellect to start posting something than arguements over semantics.
47MM, do you keep arguing this just to keep irritating the MMA people? This posting about the accepted wording and meaning behind those wordings is getting old.
Here are a couple of terms and thier accepted definitions;
MMA = sport martial art using all ranges of combat
kung fu = Chinese martial arts
Now get over it and please start using your intellect to start posting something than arguements over semantics.
I have to agree about usng semantics. It is all how they are worded, represented, and misunderstood.
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if he is a troll, then your wasting your time because your supposed to ignore them. If on the other hand he isnt, then again your wasting your time. why do you chase your own tails so much? trying to abuse a relativly harmless poster, cant you get along??? well TKD, nice art if its done properly (as with most) but I mean comm'on, he started the fight with a fly kick!! and the let the chunky MMA get him on the ground, with a mount!
See, though I may bring up the same semantics, the same discussions about martial arts are rehashed. People hate TKD, TMA can't beat MMA. This verses that (per this thread)....., etc....People are still going to post their opinion on the same rhetorical subjects. People are still going to disagree. As for me, I not looking to stimulate a argument or response. I post in accordance to my opinions, even if they disagree.
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Ok so if MMA is a "sport" then what do you call an art or philosophy that mixes Actual Arts like BJJ, Muay THai, TKD, Boxing, etc etc ???
do you still call it "Mixed MArtial ARts" becasue thats what it is isnt it?
or do you just call it this persons way of fighting or that persons?
serious question
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Ok so if MMA is a "sport" then what do you call an art or philosophy that mixes Actual Arts like BJJ, Muay THai, TKD, Boxing, etc etc ???
do you still call it "Mixed MArtial ARts" becasue thats what it is isnt it?
or do you just call it this persons way of fighting or that persons?
serious question
Indeed.
It isn't that I dont realise that the term "Mixed Martial Art" is the NAME of a sport. Just like Boxing, Kickboxing, Wrestling, etc.
But as in the structure of a name, derived from some generalized defining, we have;
Boxing, was another name for Pugilism
Kickboxing is a combination of boxing and a kicking art, for ex.- Karate.
However, given that the Sport of MMA, its definition and practices clearly indicate that it is "Mixed".
Therefore, any art, such as kickboxing, etc., is a "mixed martial art", though not in the sport-name.
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Indeed.
It isn't that I dont realise that the term "Mixed Martial Art" is the NAME of a sport. Just like Boxing, Kickboxing, Wrestling, etc.
But as in the structure of a name, derived from some generalized defining, we have;
Boxing, was another name for Pugilism
Kickboxing is a combination of boxing and a kicking art, for ex.- Karate.
However, given that the Sport of MMA, its definition and practices clearly indicate that it is "Mixed".
Therefore, any art, such as kickboxing, etc., is a "mixed martial art", though not in the sport-name.
yeah i see what you are going at because a lot of Kung Fu is technically considered "Mixed" Martial Arts because it has a lot of other martial arts in it right? i mean if you strip away the names the ways and theories are the same right? such as striking and grappling, etc there are many techniques from this art or this art found in kung fu or another art, so is true MMA?
ok i cant explain what im trying to get at here, but imma try
ok so in my mind a true Mixed Martial Art is a way of fighting that mixes other ways of fighting (I.E one martial art that mixes others, or one Martial Artist that mixes other arts)
but i still see the term MMA as the sport.
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"Be the change that you want to see in the world.. Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have imagined. Our truest life is when we are in dreams awake."
Defending yourself, your beliefs, or your individuality is never easy as it only brings conflict....just look at the news, your school, or a Martial arts forum.....
yeah i see what you are going at because a lot of Kung Fu is technically considered "Mixed" Martial Arts because it has a lot of other martial arts in it right? i mean if you strip away the names the ways and theories are the same right? such as striking and grappling, etc there are many techniques from this art or this art found in kung fu or another art, so is true MMA?
ok i cant explain what im trying to get at here, but imma try
ok so in my mind a true Mixed Martial Art is a way of fighting that mixes other ways of fighting (I.E one martial art that mixes others, or one Martial Artist that mixes other arts)
but i still see the term MMA as the sport.
Yes! Though it seems like "semantics", the definition in many dictionaries of martial art goes something like : "any Asian (Oriental) method of hand-to-hand combat"
Are we to accept this definition?
Is a martial art confined to Asian?
Is a martial art hand to hand only?
The same for Kung Fu. its term was simply skill. In vhinese history, martial arts weren't refeered to just as Kung Fu, but Quans.
Therefore, given its translation, ANY martial art, including "Sport MMA", can be Kung Fu.
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TKD vs MMA
I know you're trying to stir things up or whatever but, at least make some sort of intelligent argument.
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