kickboxing aka 'sports karate'

[mic]

is it REALLY a martial art tho? dont get me wrong, ive started doing it as i enjoy it and its great for fitness etc but its not like traditional karate (with background/history, forms etc), but its not just a keepfit class either! I realise its made up from certain styles of martial arts, but thats about it.

so really its just a sport?

[Militis]

Originally Posted by mic

is it REALLY a martial art tho? dont get me wrong, ive started doing it as i enjoy it and its great for fitness etc but its not like traditional karate (with background/history, forms etc), but its not just a keepfit class either! I realise its made up from certain styles of martial arts, but thats about it.

so really its just a sport?

Kick boxing is a martial art. But it is used as a sport and doesn't have a traditional background because it is many types of styles put together.

[Draven]

Originally Posted by mic

is it REALLY a martial art tho?

I have a friend who is teaching Freestyle Karate Combatives, freestyle karate is the same as Sport Karate/Kick Boxing, my bud just mixed his with Judo & GC (Gracie combatives) from the army and turned his sport more seld-defense.

[Zaraki Kenpachi]

I'd take kickboxing over point sparring anyday. I dont think I'll ever get too enthralled with that stuff.

[mic]

Originally Posted by Militis

Kick boxing is a martial art. But it is used as a sport and doesn't have a traditional background because it is many types of styles put together.

so doesnt that prove my theory of kickboxing not being a martial art?

heres a definition taken from a random website dictionary:

martial arts
–noun
any of the traditional forms of Oriental self-defense or combat that utilize physical skill and coordination without weapons, as karate, aikido, judo, or kung fu, often practiced as sport.

so, kickboxing ISNT traditional (although it uses traditional methods) so therefore must be a sport, not merely just practised as sport?

[Torre]

Honestly, why is this important? If you like it, do it.

[mic]

Originally Posted by Torre

Honestly, why is this important? If you like it, do it.

thanks, i do like it and will continue to do it. i only wanted peoples opinions on it!

[JackG]

Originally Posted by mic

so doesnt that prove my theory of kickboxing not being a martial art?

is a martial art just as is western boxing formalities found in eastern arts are just a quark like the amount of kicking in TKD things vary form art to art the question of it being being a martial art or a sport is where things get grey because for example Judo is most definitely both

[mic]

is a fair comment.

im not trying to argue it, dont think im looking for an argument

[Shinobi_Kokujin]

kickboxing falls under the category of "ecclectic" martial arts

its a non-traditional martial art that also has a sports side to it.

similiar to the way judo an jiujitsu for example are martial arts but they have a sports side to them

[marksmarkou]

Theres sport, then there is self defence. Obviously techniques used, are different with both. Whatever style, there will always be a selfdefence side to it, and a sport side to it. Sport karate and traditional karate come from KARATE. The sport is just a small part of the whole art.

[Zaraki Kenpachi]

I dont see how the techniques are diff? If I were an MMA fighter I could use everything from the sport as self defense. That comment makes no sense to me. Anything you do is your technique.

[mic]

Originally Posted by drallig9399

I dont see how the techniques are diff? If I were an MMA fighter I could use everything from the sport as self defense. That comment makes no sense to me. Anything you do is your technique.

that makes even less sense!!

[marksmarkou]

Originally Posted by drallig9399

I dont see how the techniques are diff? If I were an MMA fighter I could use everything from the sport as self defense. That comment makes no sense to me. Anything you do is your technique.

Well in sport karate they dont hit each other for starters. Also they use a lot of techniques that are not practical for the street. Also were not talking about MMA here. Thats not even a style

[AntonM]

Originally Posted by marksmarkou

Well in sport karate they dont hit each other for starters. Also they use a lot of techniques that are not practical for the street. Also were not talking about MMA here. Thats not even a style

Actually i disagree! MMA is a style in itself now days, there's more to it than just putting muay thai and bjj for example. I dont practice separate styles and put it into one i just do one wich is MMA.