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Old 03-02-2008, 05:18 AM   #1 (permalink)

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The rules of Kickboxing

Hey all I have a fight this summer with a kickboxer I know almost nothing about.

There are two things I have to know...

the rules, like disqualifiers and length of matches.

Also I need to know besides for the ground what is a kickboxer's worst nightmare.

I'm not talking about TKD. I'm talking American Kickboxing, how can you apply TKD against them in a way they can't handle.
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Old 03-02-2008, 02:07 PM   #2 (permalink)

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sorry i dont know much about the rules. but i know american kickboxers are fast. almost TKD like. since american kickboxing came from full contact karate. i think you were right how you said to go to the ground. and cut off their kicks.
sorry thats all i can really say. good luck in your fight.
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Old 03-02-2008, 02:48 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Get a copy of the rules to start. There are things that can be done against kick boxers, but you have to know if they are within the rule set. Different types of kickboxing and different leagues have different rules. Things like leg kicks are a good tool, but might not be allowed.

No matter what the rules, I would not stay at distance with a kick boxer. You put yourself right at their power if you do. You'll need to have good angular footwork to limit thier weapons and bring all yours to bear. Do NOT move straight forward and back. This is like waving a red flag in front of a bull for decent kickboxer and will get you in trouble. I've found jamming, trapping, and splitting to be good concepts to know when sparring kick boxers. You'll also have to be in shape. Kickboxers train for stamina and you don't want to be winded while trying to fight.
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Old 03-02-2008, 04:43 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Well I do TKD, so I think It's basically the same no? Just he has knee techniques and I don't (we use elbows at my school).
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you can still use knees.
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Telling me your TKD doesn't tell me a whole lot. The only thing I assume when I see someone say they are TKD is they like to kick. There's all sorts of different levels of training in different TKD schools...though I'm sure you already know that.

From what I've seen of your sparring on stuff you have posted here, if I were your coach I would concentrate on a few things, depending on how much time you have to train. First would be keeping your hands up at all times, even when kicking. Next would be keeping you hips under your torso. I noticed on your two on one match that when you saw an opening you were so anxious to get to it that you sometimes lunged to get the strike in. This will have the side effect of leading with your jaw and reducing the power of both your kicks and particularly your punches. Leading with your jaw is just asking for a knockout. Your going to want power in your techniques to either knock out your opponent or make him tired so his gaurd slips and his offense isn't as good. Stamina, stamina, and stamina. Anytime you take on a ring fighter of any sort you are going to want stamina. When you get tired your reactions slow and your hands drop. Obviously both of these you want to avoid.

The last thing I would say to work on is counter striking techniques. If you are good at counter-striking you don't always have to chase your opponent to score points. This will eleminate some of the problems with lunging and will conserve your energy.

Good luck woth your match. Hope some of this helps.
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Other than the above post, there isn't much advise someone could give you, however, even that wouldn't apply in all situations. For instance, if it turns out that you are better at kicking distance than your opponent is, then all this 'get in close and take away his legs' advice is poor. If you can beat him with kicking, beat him there instead of venturing off into parts unknown (like ground grappling). I would generally try to keep asking myself, what would Krav Maga do if the guy was better then you at kicking and punching distances.

But then... there are always the rules to consider. The best bet, ask your opponent.
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Krav Maga tactics would be, to removed the usage of his legs. Absolutely smash them and then go to handwork and then sprawl him. Me doing a TKD doesn't allow for that, so I guess my idea would be to fight quickly and to not have a stamina contest (It certainly doesn't help that I am an asthmatic).

So not to rush in but not to retreat.

What exactly is jammin, trapping and splitting? Are they stand up techniques or ground techniques, I've never heard of them.
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Jamming is cutting his technique of before he can really launch it. It can be done with punching and kicking. Probably the most famous example of this is Bruce Lee's stop kick. Trapping is ...well trapping the opponent's limbs against his body limiting his use of them. These are always followed up with a strike, throw, etc. Splitting is the most advanced. Its splitting the attackers power. Its done by forcing the energy of the strike away from your body in the instance of straight attacks, done by taking the center. In the instance of hooks and such it is splitting the power away from the opponent's body. This keeps the power they can apply limited. These are simplified explanations and don't really explain much. Like most things in martial arts, you have to experience them to really understand what I'm saying. If you have a coach or instructor, ask him about them.

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im not familiar with kickboxing rules. hope your getting the info you need. and good luck with your match.

TKD people usually fare pretty well in the Kickboxing circuit and i think youll do pretty well being ITF once u get a hang of the rules
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Please keep yours hands up when you yourself are kicking. A lot of people will eat your kick in order to land that power punch that knocks you out. Switching your guard when kicking is sooooo basic but rarely comes out when people arent thinking about it.
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Krav Maga tactics would be, to removed the usage of his legs. Absolutely smash them and then go to handwork and then sprawl him.
If it was a fight, not a competition, I would say go with that.
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If it was a fight, not a competition, I would say go with that.
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is the fiht tkd rules or kickboxung rules. or just a regular fight rules. if it isnt tkd rules then dont limit yourself to just what you would do in a tkd sanctioned fight.
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I'm really getting worried about this fight, there are a whole bunch of things I don't know about my opponent.

Things like how long has he been training, does he do MT or A-Kickboxing. What the rules are, apparently we're fighting Karate Full-Contact though (Whatever that means).

I learned that KBoxers have a ton of stamina, I'm an asthmatic. I'm thinking, should I go all in first round or what?
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