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I went and trained MT all summer... I got back and thought I could use some of my new skills to further effectivize my ITF TKD. I was beaten so badly. Every flaw in the boxer stance was exploited by my sparring partners... the leg kicks were countered with spinning backs and I ended up cracking my ulna (in the forearm).
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I went and trained MT all summer... I got back and thought I could use some of my new skills to further effectivize my ITF TKD. I was beaten so badly. Every flaw in the boxer stance was exploited by my sparring partners... the leg kicks were countered with spinning backs and I ended up cracking my ulna (in the forearm).
It takes more then 3 months to be proficient in any art. There is a difference between a MT stance and a boxers stance. There is also a spinning back kick in MT so it should not have been a surprise and a proficient MT practitioner would have known how yo counter. I'm not sure what flaws your speaking of in the stance I think it's kind of a ridiculous statement but, you're kind of a ridiculous kid so it's cool
It takes more then 3 months to be proficient in any art. There is a difference between a MT stance and a boxers stance. There is also a spinning back kick in MT so it should not have been a surprise and a proficient MT practitioner would have known how yo counter. I'm not sure what flaws your speaking of in the stance I think it's kind of a ridiculous statement but, you're kind of a ridiculous kid so it's cool
He went to Thailand after his brother was killed and became a.... oh hang on that's a Van Damme movie I'm thinking about.
While MT is relatively quick to become proficient in due to the lack of BS techniques, 3 months is quite a short time. No way are you going to get past basics. As for the possible stance flaw, it all comes down to conditioning and timing. If your MT defence is simply to lift your knee up against every attack, you will get owned. Doneal7, get your conditioning up, learn to leg check kicks before they're fully extended, learn to integrate your punches and kicks to work as set ups for each other and if you're getting you're arse totally kicked, learn to teep to make distance and refocus.
While I'm obviously nicer then Tri to our more youthful members, what you just posted shows a great deal of ignorance. Maybe after you post that TKD critique in the Korean section you can post a MT critique in the Kickboxing section.
My bad... keep my mouth shut next time... rather, my fingers still.
No need to do that cus then you won't learn nor be able to contribute to the teaching of others. But instead of tearing down something you did for 3 months maybe you should ask why it didn't work for you and possible ways to improve it. You're still young mate, so you have a lot of time to learn.
Oh and as for posting your critiques (of TKD and MT) in the relevant forums, that wasn't me trying to be insulting or take you down a peg. It was an actual genuine invite to put up your experience and opinions for others to examine, argue for, against or go off topic on. That is what this forum is all about anyway.
I thought I'd already done that and you were slamming it... guess I'll have a go at it again...
Maybe my reply was a bit blunt but you should know through my PMs and postings that it is never my intention to pull a fellow memebr of this forum down.
learn to leg check kicks before they're fully extended
That particular skill frustrates the hell out of TKD people who don't have experience beyond sport TKD. Very useful to learn for sparing, but it will get you deductions in a competition.
That particular skill frustrates the hell out of TKD people who don't have experience beyond sport TKD. Very useful to learn for sparing, but it will get you deductions in a competition.
Okay, my bad. I obviously have no idea what TKD contests allow. I've seen it used in Karate continuous sparring contests so I thought there might be similar rules.
That particular skill frustrates the hell out of TKD people who don't have experience beyond sport TKD. Very useful to learn for sparing, but it will get you deductions in a competition.
Good point, Chapel.
Man, I miss leg checking and, for that matter, leg kicks. After doing A LOT of kicking to the legs in Seishin Juku and Kyokushin, I had bunches of fun punishing some of the TKD guys I sparred with when I first came back to the U.S. In the Alabama Karate Circuit continuous fighting division, they don't allow leg checking at all, and that sucks.
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Okay, my bad. I obviously have no idea what TKD contests allow. I've seen it used in Karate continuous sparring contests so I thought there might be similar rules.
The exact thing I have been told is that it is 'striking non-target areas', which before that specific moment I thought was reserved for punches to the face and kidney shots.
I've never done TKD before but from what I've heard the stances are much different. For the MT stance one must be much more loose and relaxed where in the TKD stance one is somewhat tight.
I've never done TKD before but from what I've heard the stances are much different. For the MT stance one must be much more loose and relaxed where in the TKD stance one is somewhat tight.
You're close. MT does everything from one stance with slight changes in footwork. TKD has set stances with no changes in footwork. Now, I allege that the different stances in TKD are just names given to the slight changes in footwork from the base stance in MT, but Triangle disagrees with me. I will admit, to his credit, that TKDers tend to over do the stance.
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Just adding my 2 cents worth...spinning techiques are slower than direct line techniques. If you are getting hit by them then the first step should be to figure out why you are getting hit by slower techniques and work to eleminate that problem.
Breaking your ulna is a sign that you are taking too much force against force. Don't block directly against any strike at the end of its power cycle. Even if you keep it from hitting its target, you will take damage. Learning to stop an attack before it gets started is the best bet. If you can't do that then stop it before it gets to its power.
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