Jinichi Kawakami

[TKD&JKD]

Originally Posted by john55

You need to join the track team to learn how to handle yourself when confronted with a knife or gun because the best defense is to RUNNNNNNNNNNN

When confronted with a gun give up whatever you got! Bullets are faster than any track star.

[ronin7411]

John55 that was funny I've had guns and knives pulled out on me before when I was working security in the Southside of Chicago and yes the best solution is just try to get out of the situation as safe and as quick as possible.

TKD & JKD, I like your motto from General Choi I'm a big fan of ITF Tae Kwon Do.

[MaliMisho]

Originally Posted by john55

You need to join the track team to learn how to handle yourself when confronted with a knife or gun because the best defense is to RUNNNNNNNNNNN

Don't forget to zig-zag and roll!!

[TRIANGLEFROMGUARD]

Originally Posted by ronin7411

Triangle, my mother came here during the Vietnam War Refugee Run and I was taught from my aunt's cousin Andy (can't spell his last name its Laotian) and it was what he remembered before he came here while he stayed in Laos. I don't train in Muay Thai anymore because I don't have the money to go to Elkhart, IN. anymore with the budget I'm working with now.

Triangle, it isn't going to do any good they are never going to go away and they are always going to be teaching people this stuff because they believe it works. Use Tom Cameron and George Dillman as an example there is proof that Kyusho Jitsu doesn't work and "touchless knockouts" don't work but there are still people lining up in front of their dojos waiting to learn from them. Just let them found out for themselves that it isn't going to work who cares and who knows the guy might be the next Lyoto Machida so why knock it ? Also you can't knock Ninjitsu all of the way neither because Jeremy Horn is a Black Belt in Ninjitsu from Robert Bussey Warrior International. So if he studied it before he got into MMA he must have of found something useful in Ninjitsu that most people haven't seen yet. Let me provide some videos on Tom Cameron and you tell me if they are ever going to be going away me personally it won't just let them found out for themselves what is real and what ain't.

YouTube - Death Touch on Steve Harvey's Big Time

YouTube - 'The Human Stun Gun' Investigation

YouTube - Tom Cameron (Human Stun Gun) on Ripley's Believe it or Not

YouTube - Kiai Master vs MMA

Ninjitsu MMA...........

Jeremy Horn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Yeah I know who Tom Cameron is. I'm in the second video passing some ones guard. That was the Carlson Gracie academy they brought him to, to test his super natural powers

I still see no need to not tell young people to avoid this crap because it's crap. At some point they have to learn that Animie is just another way of saying cartoon.

If you're interested I know a good Muay Thai instructor in Hobart that is closer to you, I can give you the info.

And as others have said already no one is bashing ninjutsu and there is no good defense against guns and knives.

Originally Posted by Bryan

Yea, I just want some info so I can find a good instructor.

Well man I would look around your area and take some trial lessons. Planning on moving to Japan to study an art you know nothing about from a person who teaches fortune telling and exorcism skills is not a a good idea. And I'm not ripping on you dude or being mean I'm just being honest. Find a school near you check it out. If you need help finding a school near you lets us know we'll be happy to help.

[ronin7411]

Thanks Triangle, does they do mornings and how much does he/she charge ? I'm working on a budget and I'm getting a little fed up with doing the free Tang Soo Do classes at the gym I belong to nothing against the instructor or the style. But I can't do Kyokushinkai/WTF sparring rules with just throwing kicks and punching in the chest it doesn't feel natural for me like I'm short changing myself. (Tang Soo Do does have some good kicks in it that I would like to incorporate into my striking game but would only like to learn the style not compete in it.)

[TRIANGLEFROMGUARD]

Originally Posted by ronin7411

Thanks Triangle, does they do mornings and how much does he/she charge ? I'm working on a budget and I'm getting a little fed up with doing the free Tang Soo Do classes at the gym I belong to nothing against the instructor or the style. But I can't do Kyokushinkai/WTF sparring rules with just throwing kicks and punching in the chest it doesn't feel natural for me like I'm short changing myself. (Tang Soo Do does have some good kicks in it that I would like to incorporate into my striking game but would only like to learn the style not compete in it.)

I think they do hav morning classes. The instructors name is Nick Sanchez they do Muay Thai and BJJ there I think if you're just doing MT it's like $60 a month.

[ronin7411]

Is he the Muay Thai instructor for the Hobart LA Boxing & Kickboxing gym ?

[TRIANGLEFROMGUARD]

Originally Posted by ronin7411

Is he the Muay Thai instructor for the Hobart LA Boxing & Kickboxing gym ?

No Modern Martial Arts Academy the gym I founded before I moved. They are moving to Hobat in Jan.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by ronin7411

Malimusho, I see that you have a TKD background on your profile and hopefully you know what I'm talking about or seen it yourself. There are people who knock Tae Kwon Do as well and say its useless but there are people like Gung Le, Bas Rutten, and Stephen Bonnar who have Tae Kwon Do backgrounds and are successful fighters. Which further proves my point you can study whatever style and as many styles as you can then you will always find someone saying something negative about the style or styles that you studied. Who cares anymore what style the person studies as long as it works for them and they want to study it let them study it.

Are you anti TKD, why? - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums

Tae Kwon Do - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums

They also have MMA backgrounds, because as we have all seen, they would have been slaughtered with just TKD, right? And you mentioned the "who cares about styles" part a few times, remember, it's the Instructr were not happy about, I mean, would you recomend Ashida Kim?!?!

[ronin7411]

Originally Posted by TRIANGLEFROMGUARD

No Modern Martial Arts Academy the gym I founded before I moved. They are moving to Hobart in Jan.

Hey do you know Jovante Tate ? I'm good friends with him he use to train at Modern Martial Arts Academy before he decided to start going and training with Miguel Torres.

Also Chad to your question if the person wants to train with him let him do it if he can figure out to use whatever techniques he learns from any instructor in combat or competition who cares IT WORKED FOR THEM. And honestly Chad I'll train with anybody from Jujitsu (Brazilian & Japanese), to Muay Thai, Ninjitsu, Judo, Kung Fu, TKD, Karate, Sambo, Wrestling, or any other style you can name of just to learn it and like Bruce Lee emphasizes "Practice what you think is useful and everything else that isn't is forgotten or thrown away". Also don't forget you can always quit the class anytime you want (unless you sign a contract).

[Shinobi_Kokujin]

Jinichi has props from the Japanese government which is sort of natural considering his position at the museum. but his credentials still need to be verified by historians even though they are similar in tradition to oral transmissions from other styles.


Hatsumi has props from the Japanese government and was also awarded with the highest cultural award one can recieve from the Imperial family. he works with the US forces stationed in Japan and he has props from different government and law enforcement agencies around the world and also has props from every US president since Reagan.


Shoto Tanemura is acknowledge by the Japanese government and he has many years of experience training the Tokyo police.


if one has the opportunity to experience Kawakami and they wanna do it im like ok. but for good ninpo training your better off with an X-kan (bujinkan, genbukan, jinenkan) or Stephen Hayes Toshindo which is basically americanized X-kan.


ive training in ninjutsu in Japan, Okinawa, stateside, and currently in Korea and have never come across training under any Naruto fruitloop claiming magic powers or death touch dim mak techniques. just practical modern training

and classical training. i wish the bad rap wasnt there....but theres reputational, perception, and political bs with almost everything it seems

[TRIANGLEFROMGUARD]

Originally Posted by ronin7411

Hey do you know Jovante Tate ? I'm good friends with him he use to train at Modern Martial Arts Academy before he decided to start going and training with Miguel Torres.

Also Chad to your question if the person wants to train with him let him do it if he can figure out to use whatever techniques he learns from any instructor in combat or competition who cares IT WORKED FOR THEM. And honestly Chad I'll train with anybody from Jujitsu (Brazilian & Japanese), to Muay Thai, Ninjitsu, Judo, Kung Fu, TKD, Karate, Sambo, Wrestling, or any other style you can name of just to learn it and like Bruce Lee emphasizes "Practice what you think is useful and everything else that isn't is forgotten or thrown away". Also don't forget you can always quit the class anytime you want (unless you sign a contract).

LOL tell JT his old coach Andy says hey and that he's still my ninja! Yeah I had stepped down from being the head coach by the Time JT rolled in there since I was moving to Cleveland. I was his cut man at his first fight at Brawl at Burbon there's also some video of me holding pads for JT but, I didn't get much of a chance to work with him. He's a good guy I'm glad he stuck with it and is still training.

[souldrum71]

Originally Posted by Shinobi_Kokujin

ive training in ninjutsu in Japan, Okinawa, stateside, and currently in Korea and have never come across training under any Naruto fruitloop claiming magic powers or death touch dim mak techniques. just practical modern training and classical training. i wish the bad rap wasnt there....but theres reputational, perception, and political bs with almost everything it seems

Then please explain this article about developing mental powers through the ninja kuji from Stephen K. Hayes' site:
Stephen K. Hayes - Quest Centers

Or this old interview with Masaaki Hatsumi where he demonstrates how ninja used hand motions and spoken incantations to "put the enemy to rout" or "see the enemy in the dark":


Sounds like psychic powers or magic to me.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by souldrum71

Then please explain this article about developing mental powers through the ninja kuji from Stephen K. Hayes' site:
Stephen K. Hayes - Quest Centers

Or this old interview with Masaaki Hatsumi where he demonstrates how ninja used hand motions and spoken incantations to "put the enemy to rout" or "see the enemy in the dark":


Sounds like psychic powers or magic to me.

Eh... He as young at the time?

[Shinobi_Kokujin]

Originally Posted by souldrum71

Then please explain this article about developing mental powers through the ninja kuji from Stephen K. Hayes' site:
Stephen K. Hayes - Quest Centers

Or this old interview with Masaaki Hatsumi where he demonstrates how ninja used hand motions and spoken incantations to "put the enemy to rout" or "see the enemy in the dark":


Sounds like psychic powers or magic to me.

Stephen Hayes is talking about metaphysics not magic. Hatsumi clearly stated in the beginning of the interview that the perception that the general public have about ninja isnt accurate.

the scroll where he talks about the weather forecast and astronomy are more or less the same methods that an Army infantry scout for example would use in the field to try and determine the weather and astronomy methods for "old school" land navigation.


the kuji hand motions is not magic but the different hand positions represent a attribute or state of mind in a metaphysical sense. its not really literal

popular media made it literal and thats probably the interpretation your using when you said it sounds like magic.