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And I've never watched an instructional video in my life...I watch someone perform a punch, block, or kick, and I just imitate it...monkey see monkey do. And yes I know that training is trivial at best...but it builds my confidence knowing that most anything I see I can imitate...and once again...I know that's no substitute for real training.
And I've never watched an instructional video in my life...I watch someone perform a punch, block, or kick, and I just imitate it...monkey see monkey do. And yes I know that training is trivial at best...but it builds my confidence knowing that most anything I see I can imitate...and once again...I know that's no substitute for real training.
It's good that you at least understand just imitating is not same as getting trained by qualified instructors. However, if imitating gives you confidence it may be false confidence that could get you into trouble.
Wow...for martial artists, there is a lack of respect and understanding being thrown at me...Did I stumble upon a secret club that doesn't allow me to ask questions?
I feel insulted now...maybe this was why I never went to a dojo
Wow...for martial artists, there is a lack of respect and understanding being thrown at me...Did I stumble upon a secret club that doesn't allow me to ask questions?
I feel insulted now...maybe this was why I never went to a dojo
Actually it is our experience talking, many of us probably know people who have developed false confidence from things which they did not realise and sadly this is when people get hurt.
Just keep in mind that we are all martial artists and most of us even instructors and we put our own hard work into our own styles.
Sadly we get many people who watch karate kid and try to learn karate off youtube, then they get fascinated by ninjas so they get obsessed with learning secret ninja techniques even though ninjitsu might aswell be jujitsu but with freerunning and other skills which can now be practiced separably. In fact do you realise that most of the fabled stuff about ninjas was most likely made up to simply build up an image to be reckoned with. They were originally messengers not invisible, invincible warriors.
Thank You! That's what I'm trying to get out of my mouth. I know with everything I have, most every person on here are very serious and dedicated martial artists...I'm in no way challenging that fact. Why do you think I joined this forum? I know that there is a vast network of people and information that I can tap into from this site alone. I wouldn't last long in a fight with any one of you...but on the other hand, I am confident(not false confidence) that I am a lot more skilled than the average joe you meet on the street...I don't think the chances are high that a trained martial artist would pick a fight with me for no reason. And although I fully admit that I need professional training, I know that I can stand my ground with one or possibly two average, untrained, people. And I did teach myself what I know...which isn't much, but it's more that some.
I in no way want to be affiliated with that kid who watches youtube and Karate Kid and thinks they're a blackbelt...I do believe that things can be learned from nearly everything no matter how trivial, and great ideas can be spawned from them. I also in no way want to be bashed and discredited like Ashida Kim and Choson Ninja...and even them I feel have SOME useful information. I mainly want to make sure my sources are correct, and the information is reliable before I post it onto my site. That's why I'm trying to get involved more with some of the members on here, and read an post in the forums, because I feel that this is a decent source of INFORMATION for my site, not putting training videos and how-to books on there...but if you learn something from it, isn't it considered training? just not your training.
I want to talk to every person of every style of martial art and learn something from them...I really want to feel welcome here and not be ASSUMED to be someone I never claimed to be in the first place...I am very honest and very level headed, and I won't try to lie or spread false information. Can't we all just get along and acknowledge each others strengths and weaknesses and help each other to solidify the strengths and strengthen the weaknesses.
Thank You! That's what I'm trying to get out of my mouth. I know with everything I have, most every person on here are very serious and dedicated martial artists...I'm in no way challenging that fact. Why do you think I joined this forum? I know that there is a vast network of people and information that I can tap into from this site alone. I wouldn't last long in a fight with any one of you...but on the other hand, I am confident(not false confidence) that I am a lot more skilled than the average joe you meet on the street...I don't think the chances are high that a trained martial artist would pick a fight with me for no reason. And although I fully admit that I need professional training, I know that I can stand my ground with one or possibly two average, untrained, people. And I did teach myself what I know...which isn't much, but it's more that some.
I in no way want to be affiliated with that kid who watches youtube and Karate Kid and thinks they're a blackbelt...I do believe that things can be learned from nearly everything no matter how trivial, and great ideas can be spawned from them. I also in no way want to be bashed and discredited like Ashida Kim and Choson Ninja...and even them I feel have SOME useful information. I mainly want to make sure my sources are correct, and the information is reliable before I post it onto my site. That's why I'm trying to get involved more with some of the members on here, and read an post in the forums, because I feel that this is a decent source of INFORMATION for my site, not putting training videos and how-to books on there...but if you learn something from it, isn't it considered training? just not your training.
I want to talk to every person of every style of martial art and learn something from them...I really want to feel welcome here and not be ASSUMED to be someone I never claimed to be in the first place...I am very honest and very level headed, and I won't try to lie or spread false information. Can't we all just get along and acknowledge each others strengths and weaknesses and help each other to solidify the strengths and strengthen the weaknesses.
Whoa, hold on a second. If your training is purely self taught, I can say with absolute confidence that you are not ready to defend yourself in a real fight. Not to sound like Draven here (an old member), but if your training is purely self-taught, I would put my money on the meat head that has no problem escalating violence and has done so before. Also, fighting multiple opponents is always a bad idea.
I can try to draw a little off of my experience here regarding fighting without being properly trained and without sparring. I learned how to box from my father when I was young (young young I mean, like 5 years old). I always practiced shadow boxing, hitting the heavy bag, and speed bag to this day by myself. Well... I recently had a friendly MMA match with another member here on the forum. My striking skills were honestly an embarrassment. My stance, technique, everything went out the window when I was in a situation to use what I've been "training." However, I entirely relied on my BJJ training which I receive from a very highly skilled instructor and was able to do well.
I'm not trying to put you down, but to warn you for your own safety.
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I want to talk to every person of every style of martial art and learn something from them...I really want to feel welcome here and not be ASSUMED to be someone I never claimed to be in the first place...I am very honest and very level headed, and I won't try to lie or spread false information. Can't we all just get along and acknowledge each others strengths and weaknesses and help each other to solidify the strengths and strengthen the weaknesses.
Well said dude, but sadly I think you will find it tricky to get people to contribute to your quest until you have gained some trust and freindship first. But you seem to have a thirst for it, so keep on with your mission...good luck!
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Well thank you for kind of understanding me...just one thing...you're still assuming that I would hesitate to escalate violently, and that I probably haven't before acted and done violent things before...(not saying that I have)but how do you even know that I haven't killed before? Isn't there something about never underestimating someone? Other than that, I think you have a good understanding of what I was trying to get out of my mouth. Thank you for making yourself clearer...I too started learning what I know at a young age...Only it wasn't kindly taught to me by my father...instead, ages 9 and 10 was betting senselessly attacked almost every day without them EVER getting in trouble and when I fought back I got expelled. That summer I got a weight set and a heavy bag from my uncle and I taught myself how to fight from there. 11 and 12 was the other kids pretending to be my friend so they could get me to fight with the other kids. When I was in 4th grade, the 6th graders came in and found me in the bathroom, and for no reason they proceeded to beat my head off of the toilets, calling the game streetball and I was the ball....HA HA HA very funny....So I HAD to learn SOMETHING...and two weeks into karate, my mom took me out because the instructor said that if a female tries to hit you, twist her arm behind her back and tell her not to do it again, so since we don't touch women in that way in my family...I couldn't learn from a professional. And I have gotten into stupid fights since then all the way up to like 6 years ago...the only fights I lost were the ones I didn't fight because I was outnumbered. So I must have learned something...and I still want to learn more.
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just one thing...you're still assuming that I would hesitate to escalate violently, and that I probably haven't before acted and done violent things before...(not saying that I have)but how do you even know that I haven't killed before? Isn't there something about never underestimating someone? Other than that, I think you have a good understanding of what I was trying to get out of my mouth. Thank you for making yourself clearer...I too started learning what I know at a young age...Only it wasn't kindly taught to me by my father...instead, ages 9 and 10 was betting senselessly attacked almost every day without them EVER getting in trouble and when I fought back I got expelled. That summer I got a weight set and a heavy bag from my uncle and I taught myself how to fight from there. 11 and 12 was the other kids pretending to be my friend so they could get me to fight with the other kids. When I was in 4th grade, the 6th graders came in and found me in the bathroom, and for no reason they proceeded to beat my head off of the toilets, calling the game streetball and I was the ball....HA HA HA very funny....So I HAD to learn SOMETHING...and two weeks into karate, my mom took me out because the instructor said that if a female tries to hit you, twist her arm behind her back and tell her not to do it again, so since we don't touch women in that way in my family...I couldn't learn from a professional. And I have gotten into stupid fights since then all the way up to like 6 years ago...the only fights I lost were the ones I didn't fight because I was outnumbered. So I must have learned something...and I still want to learn more.
Dude, calm down, no one is underestimating you here, only offering you advice in the way they know how, advice which you have asked for.
I don't think your afraid to have a street-fight at all (if what you say is true). But if your goal is to learn martial arts the best way is to be guided by an instructor at a club. It will help you to stop having stupid fights.
Have you looked at what clubs are available near you? or are you forced to self-learn because you are to far away from anything?
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I'm not at all un-calm...I was only trying to make a point. Yes I did ask for the information...but this post has continually gone off topic from my original question, onto me. So it's only natural to be on guard. MaliMisho was simply explaining that his father taught him boxing at the age of 5...I was telling my story of why I feel that I had to teach myself.
A few things are delaying me getting to a dojo. I don't have a car, and I don't have much money to spare...and I don't really like people that much, they're increasingly rude, stupid, and ignorant. I've been screwed over many times before and I have a hard time trusting people...I trust myself, I'm very intelligent, and I truly believe that I can figure a lot out on my own. And I don't like to answer to anyone...so basically formal training doesn't sound good to me, other than the fact that I need the knowledge. But If I find a dojo that I feel at home at and I have a sense of trust for the instructors, then I would have no problem.
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I'm not at all un-calm...I was only trying to make a point. Yes I did ask for the information...but this post has continually gone off topic from my original question, onto me. So it's only natural to be on guard. MaliMisho was simply explaining that his father taught him boxing at the age of 5...I was telling my story of why I feel that I had to teach myself.
A few things are delaying me getting to a dojo. I don't have a car, and I don't have much money to spare...and I don't really like people that much, they're increasingly rude, stupid, and ignorant. I've been screwed over many times before and I have a hard time trusting people...I trust myself, I'm very intelligent, and I truly believe that I can figure a lot out on my own. And I don't like to answer to anyone...so basically formal training doesn't sound good to me, other than the fact that I need the knowledge. But If I find a dojo that I feel at home at and I have a sense of trust for the instructors, then I would have no problem.
Fair point, I can see that you are an articulate and clever individual. Im not looking to put you down or go off topic, but I would point out that you have a writting style that makes people want to challenge you, esp when you say things like this.
MA is alot to do with trusting people, liking people and answering to people. In fact this are key traits that make us go and train every week. (I know if I didn't trust my training partners I wouldn't get the best from classes) Its not simply copying some moves, you have to work with and listen to your training partners and seniors to fully learn and be truly any good.
It sounds like you've had a troubled past and find it tough to trust people, I know allot of people that started MA with this mindset (its not wrong to feel this way), some of them have gone on to be great MAs but have thankfully changed there opiniion of working with others and their lives have become richer for it Im pleased to report. You also have transport and money issues you may need to address first before you look at starting classes. Although some instuctors will offer discount rates and you may be able to car-share if you get some friends to go with you. I do hope you find an enlightened instuctor that earns your trust and respect who can work well with you to acheive your goals within the martials-arts and in life....peace
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Well thank you for kind of understanding me...just one thing...you're still assuming that I would hesitate to escalate violently, and that I probably haven't before acted and done violent things before...(not saying that I have)but how do you even know that I haven't killed before? Isn't there something about never underestimating someone? Other than that, I think you have a good understanding of what I was trying to get out of my mouth. Thank you for making yourself clearer...I too started learning what I know at a young age...Only it wasn't kindly taught to me by my father...instead, ages 9 and 10 was betting senselessly attacked almost every day without them EVER getting in trouble and when I fought back I got expelled. That summer I got a weight set and a heavy bag from my uncle and I taught myself how to fight from there. 11 and 12 was the other kids pretending to be my friend so they could get me to fight with the other kids. When I was in 4th grade, the 6th graders came in and found me in the bathroom, and for no reason they proceeded to beat my head off of the toilets, calling the game streetball and I was the ball....HA HA HA very funny....So I HAD to learn SOMETHING...and two weeks into karate, my mom took me out because the instructor said that if a female tries to hit you, twist her arm behind her back and tell her not to do it again, so since we don't touch women in that way in my family...I couldn't learn from a professional. And I have gotten into stupid fights since then all the way up to like 6 years ago...the only fights I lost were the ones I didn't fight because I was outnumbered. So I must have learned something...and I still want to learn more.
Realistically, if you've never been in the situation, you don't know how you would act. I don't know what kind of fights you've been in so I'm not going to say what you would or wouldn't do, but also remember that fights when your a kid and fights when your an adult are completely different.
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I'm not at all un-calm...I was only trying to make a point. Yes I did ask for the information...but this post has continually gone off topic from my original question, onto me. So it's only natural to be on guard. MaliMisho was simply explaining that his father taught him boxing at the age of 5...I was telling my story of why I feel that I had to teach myself.
A few things are delaying me getting to a dojo. I don't have a car, and I don't have much money to spare...and I don't really like people that much, they're increasingly rude, stupid, and ignorant. I've been screwed over many times before and I have a hard time trusting people...I trust myself, I'm very intelligent, and I truly believe that I can figure a lot out on my own. And I don't like to answer to anyone...so basically formal training doesn't sound good to me, other than the fact that I need the knowledge. But If I find a dojo that I feel at home at and I have a sense of trust for the instructors, then I would have no problem.
With this kind of attitude you will never be able to become a good fighter. You will simply not learn anything well without the proper training.
I had a very similar childhood so I can relate. Kids tried to pick on me all the time, and I got into so many fights that I didn't like people much either and was never very open. It's a very $h!ty way to live though, and after opening up I've been much happier. Also, martial artists are awesome. The guys at my school are great. If you find a good school, you may find yourself becoming friends with a ton of good people that you can trust.
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