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I looked up Ninjutsu on wikipedia and saw that there were 18 disciplines of ninjutsu. Of those 18, which ones are still being taught by today's schools? As far as I've seen looking online, there's much revolving around stealth, hand-to-hand combat, weapons, and shuriken. Are the ninja today trained like military special ops soldiers, or is ninjutsu being more true to the Art in martial arts...I don't know.
And if someone were to make a website that took some of the 18 disciplines, and broke them down into their bare elements in order to teach themselves and others, would that be wrong?
Because of the fact that ninjas are rather in vogue there is a TON of bad information about Ninjitsu on the internet. Worse yet, there have been some very successful frauds out there and so lineage isn't even a good way to determine how authentic anyone is these days.
My advice that I give to all aspiring ninjas (having once been in the same shoes) is to not worry about lineage and just go to a Ninjitsu school in your local area. Preferably, you will want to find a Ninjitsu school that fits your wants as a martial artist.
Thank you...I may have not been too clear on my previous question...Knowing that there is a lot if conflict with ninjutsu's origins, I hadn't planned on worrying about that too much...I was talking more about taking the 18 disciplines and breaking them down, deciphering them, into their basic elements. For instance Shinobi-iri, stealth and entering methods...I would just break it down into noise and light discipline, proper footwear, recon, camouflage and concealment, and locksmithing...the basic elements. Since the ninja's who are taught the information won't or can't share the information...why not figure it out myself?
And would it be ok in the martial arts community, to create a website based on my broken-down research, inviting others of like interest to help me compile the proper schmorgasbord of information?
That's funny that you said that, because I actually incorporated some parkour videos in a few of my pages, and uploaded a few more videos in the video section, after looking through the forums on here...but I had considered putting in an entire page dedicated to parkour on my site...but I need more people with that kind of information. Thanx for the suggestion though...I guess great minds think alike.
On my profile, it says to list martial arts styles that I like to train in. I am interested in those styles, and I want to know more about them. I am by no means trained in all those arts...but of the things I know, it's self taught...the only fighting skill that I was taught was the hand-2-hand combat learned in the Army Basic Training...maybe I should have been more clear. Abot my question tho...?
I cant even simply comprehend learning that many arts in general, never mind attempting to self teach them, lmao why dont people just find a decent local club and stick with that or even put all efforts into one style instead of thinking that it is as equal to just read a few books and watch a few dvds of loads of different arts, and then claim to do them all!!!!!!!!!!!
No one is being abusive dude, relax. 03youngd is simply saying he doesn't appreciate people thinking that reading a book is the same as putting in the blood, sweat and tears he has into his training. Someone who was in the United States Army and put through basic training should have a better understanding of that than most.
In the Massachusetts area you have a lot of good schools to pick from for training, especially in the Boston area. If you are looking for information on where to train I am sure we can help you find a quality place. If you think we're going to encourage you to make stuff up on your own through your own experimentation than you came to the wrong place, we generally discourage this. Why? Because we know that in order to get good at something you should study under someone who knows what they're doing.
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Please don't be abusive...Firts, I'm not claiming anything but the fact that I want to learn. I don't claim to be able to do anything.
If you aren't putting yourself off as a trained martial artist because you've read books and watched DVDs then Young's statement and our general attitude toward "self trained" people really doesn't apply to you. Its the people that think they know something because they've read a few books or watched some anime that we have issues with. You would be suprised at how many people like that want to come to this board and post silly stuff then argue with the experience of the rest of this forum's members. I'd say a majority of them are also self-proclaimed "ninjas." Self taught = being taught by a VERY inexperienced begginer.
If the styles you listed are things you are interested in, then that is cool. We appreciate people that are interested in martial arts, even if they have no experience. I would echo Joe's advice about finding and training in a school. This is a quality martial arts board, but even our advice is nothing compared to actually training in martial arts.
Its the people that think they know something because they've read a few books or watched some anime that we have issues with. You would be suprised at how many people like that want to come to this board and post silly stuff then argue with the experience of the rest of this forum's members. I'd say a majority of them are also self-proclaimed "ninjas." Self taught = being taught by a VERY inexperienced begginer.
But if you watch UFC, and you trained some UFC with one of your buddies one time, you are an MMA fighter
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Thank you...I may have not been too clear on my previous question...Knowing that there is a lot if conflict with ninjutsu's origins, I hadn't planned on worrying about that too much...I was talking more about taking the 18 disciplines and breaking them down, deciphering them, into their basic elements. For instance Shinobi-iri, stealth and entering methods...I would just break it down into noise and light discipline, proper footwear, recon, camouflage and concealment, and locksmithing...the basic elements. Since the ninja's who are taught the information won't or can't share the information...why not figure it out myself?
And would it be ok in the martial arts community, to create a website based on my broken-down research, inviting others of like interest to help me compile the proper schmorgasbord of information?
You could definitely learn some stuff like lock picking on your own with some practice locks (locks always resist with full force), but most of the other stuff listed on Wikipedia is contact martial arts kind of things. With that you will 100% need instructors to point out what you are doing wrong and peers to spar against to get a good idea about how these techniques actually work. As for the infiltration and what not, the only way to get good at neuro-linguistic programming and/or persuasion skills is to go out and practice those skills on people.
As you can see, very little of this can be accomplished entirely on your own or simply with other untrained friends. On the plus side, since you aren't interested in legacy, taking pretty much any martial art for a few years will give you a far increased ability to learn about other arts from books and videos (although you will still need to practice on resisting opponents to make those techniques work).
Oh yeah, I have a lot of training to go...I fully understand Malimisho's point...and I agree totally. I am planning to get involved in an actual school...
Actually for the longest time, I had little respect for martial arts, because I thought it was mainly for shows and competitions, and had no real applications in a fight...so that's what started me on the self-training mission, and the indecision with which martial art to practice fully. But the more I looked into it, I gained a better respect for martial arts. And I know I should get training from a dojo...And I also know that someone can only go so far training alone...A live partner is necessary.
And my goal is not to make stuff up and teach it, I had hoped to gather people in one place to share the information they know...instead of simply telling me that I'm not doing it right. I wanted to compile a reference and research site where people can share their training tips and ideas...Why would I presume to teach anybody something I know little about.
Ninjutsu 18 Disciplines?
in order to teach themselves and others, would that be wrong?
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