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I'm just wondering what other peoples opinions are on the matter because most people i talk to say that flips and other acrobatic feats are nothing more than showy nonsense but i think that if were you in a tight spot you could use cartwheels and flips to dodge multiple attackers or you could over whelm an opponent with exotic flips and kicks that they aren't used to defending against. just something to mull around the noggin. Obviously acrobatics aren't for everyone and don't guarantee an escape or a victory but they bring something interesting to the table.
I'm just wondering what other peoples opinions are on the matter because most people i talk to say that flips and other acrobatic feats are nothing more than showy nonsense but i think that if were you in a tight spot you could use cartwheels and flips to dodge multiple attackers or you could over whelm an opponent with exotic flips and kicks that they aren't used to defending against. just something to mull around the noggin. Obviously acrobatics aren't for everyone and don't guarantee an escape or a victory but they bring something interesting to the table.
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It depends on the martial art as well. Obviously gymnastics are very important to me. As for using flips to get out of situations, it quite a nice idea, I don't think it would work as anything more than taking your assailant by surprise, but who knows? Although I wouldn't do a cartwheel to get out of anything, it leaves you far to open.
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I'd say definately no....just kidding.
IMHO it is a big yes because like stated earlier it builds your muscles for the right movements related to martial arts, more than weight lifting. Also, take it from the Jaa man. look at his spinning kicks, and tripple flips, and watch as he jumps over cars. Gymnastics helps you with all of that.
if you are in TKD, gymnastics can help you jump higher and also spinn more and be more flexible with you kicks.
Gymnastics are especially big for the XMAs or Tricking martial artists
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yes definately for ninjutsu.
although we call then body skills, and its more like rolls and cartwhells, wheel flips but im not so sure about flips, but yes ninjas always need to look good when assasinating people
on a serious note, if I were a ninja and part of a tribe I would want to learn unreasonable amounts of acrobatics because the samurai thought ninjas were deamons, so why not play on that and fight unnaturally.
i find the flips them selfs pretty much useless in fights, but practicing them is good for your body
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Originally Posted by Jalek Moye
i find the flips them selfs pretty much useless in fights, but practicing them is good for your body
yeah same here, i would never use any 540's or spinning kicks in a fight, but i sure would love to do them.
It feels great when you do.
also, I really want to push my body and mind to the limit so that is why i love doing all kinds of things like that
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Pretty much agree with what has been said so far:
For martial arts? Yes. For fights? No.
However, if one did want to be able to use these things in fights as a way of being evasive you would have to train in these techniques so much that it becomes second nature to do some kind of acrobatic trick instead of simply blocking or taking a step back.
Also... getting bit by a radioactive/genetically modified spider while on a school field trip would help quite a bit.
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It really depends. For example Kung-Fu and Karate require much flexability, strength, and dexterity in order to pull off those long kicks and other difficult techniques. Where as BJJ you don't need any at all.
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i see bjj guys using flips alot...well sorta...its hard to explain
ill use this video as an example...notice the acrobatics that some bjj, judo an other grapplers may use
we use alot of combat forward and backwards rolls in my tkd and army combatives class
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It will always be quicker to move on your feet i presume than it would be to flip or cartwheel. Rolling (back wards and forwards are occasionally used, if you lose your balance on a kick for example, rolling can quickly enable you to get on your feet, and also if youre pushed to the floor. The flexibility gained from gymnastic training will be of value to all martial artists as will be strength exercises which can be implemented into a martial arts workouts, (handstand pressup, chin ups hanging on rings)
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Shinobi, that vid was an awesome demonstration. Flips and the like could only be used when you totally outclass your opponent or are a master yourself. Please dont try them when fighting. There are more sound techniques in the world that you should be learning. Dont look at the movies for things you want to be able to do. Movies are like demonstrations. Meaning they dont apply all the variables that one must account for in real life. Even in the vid posted higher up, these guys were well within striking range THE WHOLE TIME. In real life one of them would have gotten knocked out before they could shoot in on someone. Do not ignore the variables that you will encounter.
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