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Old 11-13-2007, 06:00 PM   #31 (permalink)

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Which, is as I keep saying, it isnt enough to say that these telepath telegragh, teletubby, what ever....Advance people in these arts, have many skills that are not so.................
..........Different from what they are aleady learning?
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..........Different from what they are aleady learning?
Hmmmnnnn......they may think so..............
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[quote=kuroitaka;54378]i got brown bulit in karate .
about kick boxing and boxing i was one of the best in my teams
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If you where at a GOOD karate dojo it would take ATLEAST 4 years to hit brown belt and it takes absolute minimum of a year to just learn the basics of kick boxing/boxing.
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BJJ and Ju-jitsu are not the same please read this thread http://www.martial-forums.com/forums...html#post27845
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:32 AM   #34 (permalink)

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when i entered the boxing Gym it took me 3 weeks to learn the punches and in the next day i began to start fighting .
and in sanshou i learned the punches and kicks and grappling techniques in 3 months .
and in kick boxing it took just 2 weeks [quote]

firstly in 3 weeks you haven't learnt them you have practiced them, why do you think boxers spend a life time mastering these blows and the " kick boxing it took just 2 weeks" one of the main emphasis of both these arts is devolping the basics and mastering them unfournatley a hook in boxing cannot be "Learnt" like a wristlock it has multiple layers to it, if they where as simple people would not train using these ``"basics" for so long by no means are you of an authority or experince to comment on either of these arts.
also you say you have 12 years martial arts experince, you have only ever trained in any under for under 3 years so I don't believe this amount of time is truley in context.
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when i entered the boxing Gym it took me 3 weeks to learn the punches and in the next day i began to start fighting .
and in sanshou i learned the punches and kicks and grappling techniques in 3 months .
and in kick boxing it took just 2 weeks
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firstly in 3 weeks you haven't learnt them you have practiced them, why do you think boxers spend a life time mastering these blows and the " kick boxing it took just 2 weeks" one of the main emphasis of both these arts is devolping the basics and mastering them unfournatley a hook in boxing cannot be "Learnt" like a wristlock it has multiple layers to it, if they where as simple people would not train using these ``"basics" for so long by no means are you of an authority or experince to comment on either of these arts.
also you say you have 12 years martial arts experince, you have only ever trained in any under for under 3 years so I don't believe this amount of time is truley in context.
And thus my point how he cannot say that any art telegraghs ot not....(which would seem to imply that any cannot "live" up to FA)

To me, BECAUSE he had not spent a lot of time in any art, is why he believes Full Attack is so grand. It is a mixture of arts and perhaps seem to shorten phases that are appealing to him. Which I have doubt and think that the art is not so new, not so inventive, and not so different. The wheel cannot be conceptually re-invented.

Do I intend to bash his art? No.

Do I think its so special and new? No.

Do I think its unique? Yes. As believe every art is.

Do I think he is not studying a real martial art? No. I think he is studying a art that he truly can stay with, learn, and grow. Though, I think any martial artist should understand that one art isn't the answer to all.
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when i entered the boxing Gym it took me 3 weeks to learn the punches and in the next day i began to start fighting .
and in sanshou i learned the punches and kicks and grappling techniques in 3 months .
and in kick boxing it took just 2 weeks

And thus my point how he cannot say that any art telegraghs ot not....(which would seem to imply that any cannot "live" up to FA)

To me, BECAUSE he had not spent a lot of time in any art, is why he believes Full Attack is so grand. It is a mixture of arts and perhaps seem to shorten phases that are appealing to him. Which I have doubt and think that the art is not so new, not so inventive, and not so different. The wheel cannot be conceptually re-invented.

Do I intend to bash his art? No.

Do I think its so special and new? No.

Do I think its unique? Yes. As believe every art is.

Do I think he is not studying a real martial art? No. I think he is studying a art that he truly can stay with, learn, and grow. Though, I think any martial artist should understand that one art isn't the answer to all.
I've seen a video or two of Full Attack, and I have some news for you. There are things I've seen before, and things I have not seen before. I haven't seen alot, but from what I have seen, there are things both new and old. And remember that Full Attack is a type of boxing. For boxing, there are things here that are completely new. I think Full Attack will contribute significantly to the boxing world in the future. Kuroitaka knows what he's talking about.
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I've seen a video or two of Full Attack, and I have some news for you. There are things I've seen before, and things I have not seen before. I haven't seen alot, but from what I have seen, there are things both new and old. And remember that Full Attack is a type of boxing. For boxing, there are things here that are completely new. I think Full Attack will contribute significantly to the boxing world in the future. Kuroitaka knows what he's talking about.
Well, as i once stated in a post, let me see some vids.....and i can decide....

Besides, who is to say you are not limited to what you have seen verses anoher?
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Well, as i once stated in a post, let me see some vids.....and i can decide....

Besides, who is to say you are not limited to what you have seen verses anoher?
Perhaps you have seen things I have not, and vice versa; regardless, to boxing, Full Attack has techniques and theories that are completely new.
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Perhaps you have seen things I have not, and vice versa; regardless, to boxing, Full Attack has techniques and theories that are completely new.
As I said;

New to you, but perhaps not to others.....
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New to you, but perhaps not to others.....
Perhaps. It's not as if everyone's studied upwards of 5 martial arts, let alone a number like 10.
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Perhaps. It's not as if everyone's studied upwards of 5 martial arts, let alone a number like 10.
Sorry, if he posted a vid of every tactic method in his art, we can search and find another like it.....

Or just by having others here from other arts, they will see that it isn't new.....
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Sorry, if he posted a vid of every rtactic method in his art, we can search and find another like it.....

Or just by having others here from other arts, they will see that it isn't new.....
And the arts you practice are totally unique?
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And the arts you practice are totally unique?
Yes, they are. As any are.

Are they "new"? No they aren't.

Because in the end, how they are used are the same as any other.....
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Yes, they are. As any are.

Are they "new"? No they aren't.

Because in the end, how they are used are the same as any other.....
Different styles, similar purposes.
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Different styles, similar purposes.
Thus the methods/tactics, could never be truly new.

The training may different but a punch is still a punch, a kick is still a kick, etc......


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