Full Attack Boxing

[Akai Shizuku]

Originally Posted by TenTigers

ok,let me first apologize for my lack of patience for not reading each and every one of these posts, but after the first ten, it seemed like this crap would go on and on. 47, bro, you have more patience than me-but you are older than me too!Perhaps one day I will get there, but NOT TODAY!
Ok, did I miss this guy posting a vid of him doing something that nobody in centuries of martial arts development has missed?
Did he never hear of the elusive lead? Initial movement? These are terms I learned in the seventies when learning Kenpo, and in JKD, and from Jack Dempsey.(books-I ain't that old)This guy thinks he reinvented the wheel. Evidently, he doesn't get out much.
Let it go.
You will not convince him, just as I couldn't convince the guy I'd met at the Rennaisance Faire that the style of combat he developed after the Mallard Duck wouldn't be street effective.
Just let it go.

There's more to it than that. In addition, this is a rather old thread.

[47MartialMan]

Well, I havent seen him on for some time

[Militis]

Ten tigers seems to like archaeology, because he's been digging up all of the ancient threads

[TenTigers]

yeah, I haven't been on in awhile, so I went through the threads to see anything of interest.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by TenTigers

yeah, I haven't been on in awhile, so I went through the threads to see anything of interest.

Kudos! Thats the way to do it.

[Chapel]

Originally Posted by TenTigers

ok,let me first apologize for my lack of patience for not reading each and every one of these posts, but after the first ten, it seemed like this crap would go on and on. 47, bro, you have more patience than me-but you are older than me too!Perhaps one day I will get there, but NOT TODAY!
Ok, did I miss this guy posting a vid of him doing something that nobody in centuries of martial arts development has missed?
Did he never hear of the elusive lead? Initial movement? These are terms I learned in the seventies when learning Kenpo, and in JKD, and from Jack Dempsey.(books-I ain't that old)This guy thinks he reinvented the wheel. Evidently, he doesn't get out much.
Let it go.
You will not convince him, just as I couldn't convince the guy I'd met at the Rennaisance Faire that the style of combat he developed after the Mallard Duck wouldn't be street effective.
Just let it go.

I will admit, a lot of this art smacks of marketing, but that isn't always a bad thing. It might be street useful, it might be fun.

That being said, at least he isn't melting gun barrels with spectral radiation from his palms. (See: Grand Celestial Do)

[47MartialMan]

Yes, there are people and arts far worse. Full Atack seems to strive to have some curriculum. though the mind-reading thing threw me off.

[Militis]

I have a book on ninjutsu, and they have something like mind reading in the curriculum.

[Akai Shizuku]

I must comment that Full Attack is effective in at least one way or the other. From what Kuroitaka has told me and what I've seen, it can be hard work (just like our own martial arts), so mabye it's a bit underrated. Regardless of whether it's the superduperfunkyfreshnewultimatemartialart or not, it deserves some credit - it's still a martial art, and still effective.

[TenTigers]

well, sure it's effective. It's simply basics technique, repackaged. Nothing wrong with developing your own curriculum, syllabus etc, and giving it a name and marketing your school. I think the thing here is that you are presenting this to a forum of martial artists, some of which seem to have more experience, so you are marketing to the wrong target audience. Preaching to the choir. You need to put it out to the general public-Mom's, Teens, Young Adults, perhaps Law Enforcement, but most of us here have been there done that.

[Akai Shizuku]

Originally Posted by TenTigers

well, sure it's effective. It's simply basics technique, repackaged. Nothing wrong with developing your own curriculum, syllabus etc, and giving it a name and marketing your school. I think the thing here is that you are presenting this to a forum of martial artists, some of which seem to have more experience, so you are marketing to the wrong target audience. Preaching to the choir. You need to put it out to the general public-Mom's, Teens, Young Adults, perhaps Law Enforcement, but most of us here have been there done that.

Have you considered the possibility that Full Attack may have something new to offer?

[WC_Lun]

Originally Posted by Akai Shizuku

Have you considered the possibility that Full Attack may have something new to offer?

From what I have seen, it doesn't have anything new. It does seem to have some solid basis though, which is good for anyone wanting to study it. New doesn't always mean good. I've seen several guys create "new" sytems or styles and they weren't worth the time it took to name them. Either the core concepts and principles of true martial arts are there or they aren't. After thousands of years of masters researching martial arts through real combat, I seriously doubt there is anything new to discover. As 47MM says, you can't reinvent the wheel.

[TenTigers]

ok, you're 19. You started when you were 17. You say you are not the creator of this system? Then who is, what is his experience, how long did he study what and where?
This sounds like a system created by an extremely large ego.
To take basic theories, re-name them,and think he re-invented the wheel is folly.
To add bits an bobs of different Martial Arts without actual emersion into the arts themselves means you never actually truly understand them, but only on a superficial level. It is not study, it is merely dabbling. The "I get it" mentality sounds like this person might also be 17-19 yrs old.
Adding esoteric parctices,telepathy,etc into the training, sounds all to familiar, and the founder is possibly working towards developing his own little cult following. Certainly not healthy practices for young, immature, impressionable youth.
"Aliester crowley meets Bruce Lee"
"Falun Gong Martial Arts"
as they say in the south...
"Y'all better roll up yer pants. Y'already soiled yer shoes!"

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

From what I have seen, it doesn't have anything new. It does seem to have some solid basis though, which is good for anyone wanting to study it. New doesn't always mean good. I've seen several guys create "new" sytems or styles and they weren't worth the time it took to name them. Either the core concepts and principles of true martial arts are there or they aren't. After thousands of years of masters researching martial arts through real combat, I seriously doubt there is anything new to discover. As 47MM says, you can't reinvent the wheel.

Indeed. As I said many times before, Im not knocking the system.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by TenTigers

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"Aliester Crowley meets Bruce Lee"
"Falun Gong Martial Arts"
as they say in the south...
"Y'all better roll up yer pants. Y'already soiled yer shoes!"

Alester crowley and Falon gong, names i havent seen/heard for decades.........