Drunken Boxing

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by JoaNor

Well it was created by the 'The Eight Drunken Immortals', but that doesn't mean that you have to be drunk to preform themovements...

The Eight Immortals are:

Immortal Woman He (He Xiangu),
Royal Uncle Cao (Cao Guojiu),
Iron-Crutch Li (Li Tieguai),
Lan Caihe,
Lü Dongbin, (leader)
Philosopher Han Xiang (Han Xiang Zi),
Elder Zhang Guo (Zhang Guo Lao), and
Zhongli Quan.

The Eight Drunken Immortals is a fictional tale

[JoaNor]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

The Eight Drunken Immortals is a fictional tale

Well they are believed to have made it... but if they're fictional, then who did invent it??

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by JoaNor

Well they are believed to have made it... but if they're fictional, then who did invent it??

Foolish beliefs and story telling over time. It is Chinese mythology based upon Taoism and not martial arts, and not Drunken Style Martial Arts. IMHO, you need to research more on Chinese mythology.

Thus, from this research, many martial art legends are fictional

[Chapel]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

However, the drunk style was done by a drunkard.

Monkey style is done by a buffoon

I'm sure that drunkards and buffoons have done all manner of martial arts. Why would this detract from the serious artists?

What I am basically getting at is that the movements that make up the art only have basis in other things. Their uniqueness is what makes them useful (i.e. it is hard to hit someone if they are moving around in a way you don't understand). Likewise it is also their uniqueness that makes them interesting and fun. Surely you cannot be against someone pursuing an avenue of general interest and intrigue...

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Chapel

I'm sure that drunkards and buffoons have done all manner of martial arts. Why would this detract from the serious artists?

What I am basically getting at is that the movements that make up the art only have basis in other things. Their uniqueness is what makes them useful (i.e. it is hard to hit someone if they are moving around in a way you don't understand). Likewise it is also their uniqueness that makes them interesting and fun. Surely you cannot be against someone pursuing an avenue of general interest and intrigue...

A uniqueness to moving, per hard to hit someone may seem a good thing. But, the discussion of a style done by a drunk would seem to be only unique to THAT individual. And such his performance was only DONE drunk. And what is the "fun" of that.

There are flaws to myths and legends and to pursue a interest and intrique to such as to try and do, oer this particular is nonsense.

[GoddeBPM]

Originally Posted by kungfu088

i watched a video oo=n youtube of a team of drunken boxing practioners against a team of karate practinoers and it was a slaughter. karate guys being the slaughterers

I've seen a lot of drunken kung fu through various movies and videos and the ones in the Karate vs Drunken Kung Fu seemed very poor at it.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by GoddeBPM

I've seen a lot of drunken kung fu through various movies and videos and the ones in the Karate vs Drunken Kung Fu seemed very poor at it.

And, hence, my point...............

[Chapel]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

A uniqueness to moving, per hard to hit someone may seem a good thing. But, the discussion of a style done by a drunk would seem to be only unique to THAT individual. And such his performance was only DONE drunk. And what is the "fun" of that.

There are flaws to myths and legends and to pursue a interest and intrique to such as to try and do, oer this particular is nonsense.

I do agree about how it will always come down to the individual. However, you are wrong about every from of drunken boxing requiring the use of alcohol. In fact, the use of alcohol in many cases would actually make many drunken boxing techniques harder because of the amount of balance and control required.

[WC_Lun]

Drunken style boxing does not rely on one being drunk. It mimics the MOVEMENTS of a drunkard, not the vices. I think maybe the belief that someone has to be drunk to practice it has come from certain Jackie Chan movies.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Chapel

I do agree about how it will always come down to the individual. However, you are wrong about every from of drunken boxing requiring the use of alcohol. In fact, the use of alcohol in many cases would actually make many drunken boxing techniques harder because of the amount of balance and control required.

Drunken boxing cannot be fully done unless the person is drunk. Acting drunk is not in its fullest. Thats why the word "drunken" is there. There are other aspects to the style that only being drunk, will contribute.

Yes, alcohol will make it harder for those that are used sober, are not actually drunken. Therefore, they are not doing drunken style if they cannot do the moves intoxicated.

The style's name, is the essence of how it came to be and used.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

Drunken style boxing does not rely on one being drunk. It mimics the MOVEMENTS of a drunkard, not the vices. I think maybe the belief that someone has to be drunk to practice it has come from certain Jackie Chan movies.

There are other apects of the stle, with alcohol that one cannot mimick.

The style's name, is the essence of how it came to be and used.