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Old 04-10-2008, 09:22 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Sizing up the ego...

Does the challenger's strength stem from a deeper weekness?
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:31 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Does the challenger's strength stem from a deeper weekness?
No it doesn't.
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I disagree...

Thank you for your response Joemoplata, but some pain has had to have been inflicted somewhere along the the line for anyone to seek a greater defense &/or offense. My question was more to the point of understanding pain and how to notice fear before any punches are ever thrown.
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Thank you for your response Joemoplata, but some pain has had to have been inflicted somewhere along the the line for anyone to seek a greater defense &/or offense. My question was more to the point of understanding pain and how to notice fear before any punches are ever thrown.
Psychological response to violence is a whole science which I will leave to the experts to debate. In the meantime, I handle my own response by being confronted with violence reqularly in sparring.
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Understanding pain is towards that of the individual's threshold. One is painful to one, may not have the same degree of pain on another.

Fear is evident when any animal or human ability to expereince fear for survival. Fear triggers the familiar "fight or flight" response, characterized by increased heart rate, breathing, and muscle tension, which allows the individual to escape from danger or defend itself against a predator/opposition. Based on the presence or absence of a stimulus, the brain appropriately regulates the strength and duration of this coping mechanism. When this regulatory system malfunctions, however, it can lead to excessive fearfulness in certain individuals. For some reason, these people have trouble suppressing the body's response to stress. While a lot of progress has been made in understanding the mechanisms that initially trigger fear responses, the precise method of turning them off remains elusive.
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Does the challenger's strength stem from a deeper weekness?

Not necessarily.

Take for instance the simple farmer, or trade person who works their entire life in the field plowing, reaping, bailing, chopping wood or doing any regular hard labor. They build thready strong muscles because of necessity or circumstance, not necessarily from some ill fate or deep pain.

Imagine getting into a fist fight with one such person. I have, and let me tell you, though he knew no such formal martial art, he landed several fierce blows, and grappled like a true luchador without any training beyond the joyful rough housing with his mates.

I do agree that for some, strength can be derived from a loss or pain (it’s the basis for the hero archetype), but not for all.
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Not necessarily.

Take for instance the simple farmer, or trade person who works their entire life in the field plowing, reaping, bailing, chopping wood or doing any regular hard labor. They build thready strong muscles because of necessity or circumstance, not necessarily from some ill fate or deep pain.

Imagine getting into a fist fight with one such person. I have, and let me tell you, though he knew no such formal martial art, he landed several fierce blows, and grappled like a true luchador without any training beyond the joyful rough housing with his mates.

I do agree that for some, strength can be derived from a loss or pain (it’s the basis for the hero archetype), but not for all.
Hmmmn, remaonds me os a saying:

Old age and treachery can ovecome youth and strength.....
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