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Philosophical DiscussionDo you have a philosophical view to martial arts styles, training, etc. ?
Styles: Western Boxing, Tai Chi, Animal Form Kung Fu, and Wing Chun
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47MM, I think I see more in your words than you think...hard as it was to decipher. You know there is something to be said for straight talk Here's the whole thing down to bare bones, the way I see it. You won't post your experience because you are being challenged to do so. I find that ironic with as many challenging post that you have written. What's good for the goose, should be good for the buzzard. Because of your decision, the most prolific poster on these forums now has his veracity and reputation cast in doubt. I'm sorry if this offends you, but it reminds me of a child holding his breath and stomping his feet because he wasn't asked in a sweet and nice way.
In my opinion it comes down to knowledge and ones ability to convey it. There are certain people that directly challenge ones area of expertise for whatever reason they may have, and it is very confrontational. To ask questions about a subject is one thing, to claim expertise in a subject or question a practitioners knowledge is a total different thing. I'm a mixed martial artist thats my thing and as far as my conviction goes the scar tissue on my face or the fact my ears are bleeding on the inside today speaks volumes above anything I can post on a web site. For someone to ask me questions is never a big deal, heck thats why I'm here but, for some one to question my knowledge makes we want to say well who the hell are you to do so. Saying one did MMA before it was a fad is slightly irritating to me with out giving me examples of how you trained. Implying it's a fad is degrading, hell I've bled real blood for this fad what have you done?
I can't blindly accept someone telling me that I'm not doing what I DO!!!!!! correctly simply because they are older then me or, because of sort of Rambo complex. Or that they explain the flaws in a style they know nothing about. For example I've said before that in my world TKD is not enough for stand up you need to supplement with boxing or Muay Thai but, put me in TKD tournament and guess what has two thumbs and is losing, this guy!!!!
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You still don't get me 47MM, not at all. I'm really not trying to understand your threads that you have even admitted is full of "curve balls". I realize that you believe yourself to be a wise old sage who's job it is to come on forums and educate the masses and stimulate thoughts. But this is a Martial Arts forum my friend. The rest of us want to discuss Martial Arts.
So...related to that subject....what exactly can you offer in terms of a discussion about Martial Arts?
Got anything?
You still dont get it. And I didnt claim to be wise, though I am old.
Yes, lets discuss martial arts. So I guess NONE of my threads nor NONE of my posts, had ANY dicussion of martial arts....
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
How so? My post supports nothing but my opinion that a rank is only as valuable as the quality of training and personal convictions of the person wearing it.
Please don't try to hide behind my words.
So, rank has to demonstrate a person's expereince, per posting on a forum?
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
47MM, I think I see more in your words than you think...hard as it was to decipher. You know there is something to be said for straight talk Here's the whole thing down to bare bones, the way I see it. You won't post your experience because you are being challenged to do so. I find that ironic with as many challenging post that you have written. What's good for the goose, should be good for the buzzard. Because of your decision, the most prolific poster on these forums now has his veracity and reputation cast in doubt. I'm sorry if this offends you, but it reminds me of a child holding his breath and stomping his feet because he wasn't asked in a sweet and nice way.
I am not offended. And I dont care about someone's background, to the letter. Z.
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
In my opinion it comes down to knowledge and ones ability to convey it. There are certain people that directly challenge ones area of expertise for whatever reason they may have, and it is very confrontational. To ask questions about a subject is one thing, to claim expertise in a subject or question a practitioners knowledge is a total different thing. I'm a mixed martial artist thats my thing and as far as my conviction goes the scar tissue on my face or the fact my ears are bleeding on the inside today speaks volumes above anything I can post on a web site. For someone to ask me questions is never a big deal, heck thats why I'm here but, for some one to question my knowledge makes we want to say well who the hell are you to do so. Saying one did MMA before it was a fad is slightly irritating to me with out giving me examples of how you trained. Implying it's a fad is degrading, hell I've bled real blood for this fad what have you done?
I can't blindly accept someone telling me that I'm not doing what I DO!!!!!! correctly simply because they are older then me or, because of sort of Rambo complex. Or that they explain the flaws in a style they know nothing about. For example I've said before that in my world TKD is not enough for stand up you need to supplement with boxing or Muay Thai but, put me in TKD tournament and guess what has two thumbs and is losing, this guy!!!!
Great point. But if one has little experise in something else, based upon scant exposure, how could they actually post a credible account for their post?
For example, if oyu hadn't trained in TKD/Kung FU/Tai Chi, at lleast not from a qualified teacher, I could you reccomend not to to omeone else. How could you truly give any input on such?
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
So, rank has to demonstrate a person's expereince, per posting on a forum?
In a perfect world, yes, rank would be equivalent to a martial artist's experience and training. Now we all know this is not the case a lot of the times.
As for posting on a forum, I think the ranks on Martial Forums do a pretty good job of demonstrating the members' posting experiences.
__________________ "An eye for an eye only blinds the world." - Ghandi
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47MM, I think I see more in your words than you think...hard as it was to decipher.
According to some of your posts, I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by WC_Lun
You know there is something to be said for straight talk Here's the whole thing down to bare bones, the way I see it. You won't post your experience because you are being challenged to do so. I find that ironic with as many challenging post that you have written. What's good for the goose, should be good for the buzzard. Because of your decision, the most prolific poster on these forums now has his veracity and reputation cast in doubt. I'm sorry if this offends you, but it reminds me of a child holding his breath and stomping his feet because he wasn't asked in a sweet and nice way.
The above words, clearly shows that you have not understood the thread and my words.
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
Slightly off topic but I'm considering adding a new feature to the forum where it keeps track of "experience points", which is more than just the number of posts. It will track such things as how many threads started, how long been a member, etc. Just FYI, it may be coming near future.
In a perfect world, yes, rank would be equivalent to a martial artist's experience and training. Now we all know this is not the case a lot of the times.
As for posting on a forum, I think the ranks on Martial Forums do a pretty good job of demonstrating the members' posting experiences.
Hey, I think some may beleive that I like arguing, for the sake of arguing.
That I like posting, for the sake of posting.
That I like controversy and confrontation, for the sake of controversy and confrotnation.
And though "sometimes" I may enjoy any of these, the only thing I like is the sake in the form of a Japanese beverage.
I find it interesting how no one actually understands much of this thread.
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
Aren't we all here to be students? To learn from one another?
I ask, how is it that anybody can trust the merits posted on a forum when it is so very unlikely any of those merits can be backed up?
It is by what is said that we take our proof and invest faith. If somebody doesn't believe in justifying their experience on a thread for all to see, is it possible it is in an attempt to avoid being a braggart?
This is the very first response I had to that thread about experience "isn't that quaint, it’s a belt measuring contest."
Does it fit within the tenants of martial arts to self-promote so flagrantly?
I don't presume to defend MM47, he has annoyed me at times, but why does there need to be such tenacity from others trying to exploit the niche in his reasoning?
Give the buzzard a break, in alienating him, we all risk losing a resource of interesting information and stimulating conversation.
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Here's the whole thing down to bare bones, the way I see it. You won't post your experience because you are being challenged to do so. I find that ironic with as many challenging post that you have written. What's good for the goose, should be good for the buzzard. Because of your decision, the most prolific poster on these forums now has his veracity and reputation cast in doubt. I'm sorry if this offends you, but it reminds me of a child holding his breath and stomping his feet because he wasn't asked in a sweet and nice way.
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