“Who Cares If Bruce Springsteen Is A Shodoshi?”

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Miticis

Interesting.

Aren't we all here to be students? To learn from one another?

Some maybe here to learn. Others are here to blatantly post their experience. Others just like to post and talk with people. And others, desire to stimulate those who may not always explain themselves in details.

Originally Posted by Miticis

I ask, how is it that anybody can trust the merits posted on a forum when it is so very unlikely any of those merits can be backed up?

You caught on to some of this thread.

Originally Posted by Miticis

It is by what is said that we take our proof and invest faith. If somebody doesn't believe in justifying their experience on a thread for all to see, is it possible it is in an attempt to avoid being a braggart?

Wow. I didn't think of this as one of the points of the thread. Thanks-Kudos!

Originally Posted by Miticis

This is the very first response I had to that thread about experience "isn't that quaint, it’s a belt measuring contest."

Yeah, it is also "Your post (s) sucks cause you didn't list your experience"

Originally Posted by Miticis

Does it fit within the tenants of martial arts to self-promote so flagrantly?

You have read the article of the thread.

Originally Posted by Miticis

I don't presume to defend MM47, he has annoyed me at times, but why does there need to be such tenacity from others trying to exploit the niche in his reasoning?

Because I dare to be diffeent. And different is always challenged.

Originally Posted by Miticis

Give the buzzard a break, in alienating him, we all risk losing a resource of interesting information and stimulating conversation.

Another part of the thread you had understood

Also to mention, Buzzards clean up unwanted waste.

[Joemoplata]

Originally Posted by Miticis

Interesting.

Aren't we all here to be students? To learn from one another?

I ask, how is it that anybody can trust the merits posted on a forum when it is so very unlikely any of those merits can be backed up?

It is by what is said that we take our proof and invest faith. If somebody doesn't believe in justifying their experience on a thread for all to see, is it possible it is in an attempt to avoid being a braggart?

This is the very first response I had to that thread about experience "isn't that quaint, it’s a belt measuring contest."

Does it fit within the tenants of martial arts to self-promote so flagrantly?

I don't presume to defend MM47, he has annoyed me at times, but why does there need to be such tenacity from others trying to exploit the niche in his reasoning?

Give the buzzard a break, in alienating him, we all risk losing a resource of interesting information and stimulating conversation.

I disagree...this is a Martial Arts forum. I want to hear from people with experience and knowledge, someone who is a fraud or a troll needs to be exposed and pushed off the forum.

I'm surprised that you guys are so willing to let somebody who can't prove that they have ever even stepped onto a mat join in on a conversation about things that so many of us put our own blood and sweat into.

In my academy, and where I teach you put all your cheap talk aside once you bow and step onto the mat. You are expected to put everything you have onto that mat and if you can't do it then you either learn to or you never come back.

We don't tolerate frauds, or hacks, or talkers. We value action and heart....and if 47MM can't show that he has either than he gets no break from me.

This is what I would expect from anyone else involved in Martial Arts.

[Joemoplata]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Strange you would bring GOD into this. I wonder do you devote as much time to GOD as to your training?

Again, completely irrelevant to the topic. Why are you always trying to steer the conversation away from fighting? What are you avoiding?

Why can't you ever actually finish a conversation about fighting?

[Joemoplata]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Because I dare to be diffeent. And different is always challenged.

LOL!!

Yes, you're completely original 47MM. Nothing you have said on here was ever said before. You are so different and unique from the rest of the world.

Maybe that's the problem...you suffer from terminal uniqueness.

I notice your thread count keeps going up and up and up and up by the way. Good job, keep that up!!

[TRIANGLEFROMGAURD]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Great point. But if one has little experise in something else, based upon scant exposure, how could they actually post a credible account for their post?

For example, if oyu hadn't trained in TKD/Kung FU/Tai Chi, at lleast not from a qualified teacher, I could you reccomend not to to omeone else. How could you truly give any input on such?

They do so based on personal experience and provide examples. I by far do not know it all about martial arts. I post what I've noticed and what I've seen first hand. You're free to disagree with me but, I may ask you to back that statement up. You don't have to like everything I like and vice versa.

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

According to some of your posts, I don't think so.

Per below:



The above words, clearly shows that you have not understood the thread and my words.

Then stop being cryptic if you want your point well understood.

Originally Posted by complete

Slightly off topic but I'm considering adding a new feature to the forum where it keeps track of "experience points", which is more than just the number of posts. It will track such things as how many threads started, how long been a member, etc. Just FYI, it may be coming near future.

That would be cool!

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Hey, I think some may beleive that I like arguing, for the sake of arguing.

That I like posting, for the sake of posting.

That I like controversy and confrontation, for the sake of controversy and confrotnation.

And though "sometimes" I may enjoy any of these, the only thing I like is the sake in the form of a Japanese beverage.

I find it interesting how no one actually understands much of this thread.

You know you like controversy and arguing, we all do.

Originally Posted by Miticis

Interesting.

Aren't we all here to be students? To learn from one another?

I ask, how is it that anybody can trust the merits posted on a forum when it is so very unlikely any of those merits can be backed up?

It is by what is said that we take our proof and invest faith. If somebody doesn't believe in justifying their experience on a thread for all to see, is it possible it is in an attempt to avoid being a braggart?

This is the very first response I had to that thread about experience "isn't that quaint, it’s a belt measuring contest."

Does it fit within the tenants of martial arts to self-promote so flagrantly?

I don't presume to defend MM47, he has annoyed me at times, but why does there need to be such tenacity from others trying to exploit the niche in his reasoning?

Give the buzzard a break, in alienating him, we all risk losing a resource of interesting information and stimulating conversation.

Tenants differ from art to art. Some would consider boasting a good thing.

I'm not here to learn but, to share, meet others with similar interests, and communicate. While I welcome differing opinions some truths are just that true. I don't dislike MM47 I actually like him and have backed him up in other threads. MM47 is not a fool he knows exactly what the deal is nor will he stop posting it is not his way, there are just new dogs on the block, they were gonna scrap eventually.

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Strange you would bring GOD into this. I wonder do you devote as much time to GOD as to your training?

Erroneous and inflammatory.

[Miticis]

Originally Posted by Joemoplata

I disagree...this is a Martial Arts forum. I want to hear from people with experience and knowledge, someone who is a fraud or a troll needs to be exposed and pushed off the forum.

I'm surprised that you guys are so willing to let somebody who can't prove that they have ever even stepped onto a mat join in on a conversation about things that so many of us put our own blood and sweat into.

In my academy, and where I teach you put all your cheap talk aside once you bow and step onto the mat. You are expected to put everything you have onto that mat and if you can't do it then you either learn to or you never come back.

We don't tolerate frauds, or hacks, or talkers. We value action and heart....and if 47MM can't show that he has either than he gets no break from me.

This is what I would expect from anyone else involved in Martial Arts.

Originally Posted by Joemoplata

Again, completely irrelevant to the topic. Why are you always trying to steer the conversation away from fighting? What are you avoiding?

Why can't you ever actually finish a conversation about fighting?

Originally Posted by Joemoplata

LOL!!

Yes, you're completely original 47MM. Nothing you have said on here was ever said before. You are so different and unique from the rest of the world.

Maybe that's the problem...you suffer from terminal uniqueness.

I notice your thread count keeps going up and up and up and up by the way. Good job, keep that up!!

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Why so confrontational? It seems as if you have more to prove than MM47 does. So far as I can tell, most of the name calling, belt wagging, and chest beating has come from you.

With statements starting with "in my acadamy..." you only demonstrate your adversarial nature, which I guess is inherently what martial arts is about, but this is a forum, not the mat, where people are encouraged to share their thoughts and opinions, all you are doing is encouraging your negative attitude and blood pressure.

Chill out dude, your dogged pursuite is not helping anybody.

Id like to learn from you Joemoplata, but not when all I see is the dogged belittlement of another forum-mate.

[Joemoplata]

Originally Posted by Miticis

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Why so confrontational? It seems as if you have more to prove than MM47 does. So far as I can tell, most of the name calling, belt wagging, and chest beating has come from you.

With statements starting with "in my acadamy..." you only demonstrate your adversarial nature, which I guess is inherently what martial arts is about, but this is a forum, not the mat, where people are encouraged to share their thoughts and opinions, all you are doing is encouraging your negative attitude and blood pressure.

Chill out dude, your dogged pursuite is not helping anybody.

Id like to learn from you Joemoplata, but not when all I see is the dogged belittlement of another forum-mate.

You are not very forum savvy my friend. I have been involved with Martial arts forums for a long time and moderate one myself and know how much of the posting is done by trolls. Now, when it's done by one that is funny and we all know that person is a troll, then it can actually be quite fun. Their job at that point becomes pushing people's buttons to that point where they get all bent out of shape and then disappear into the ether. Who doesn't think that's funny?

But then there's trolls who try to eek out a life on a forum who aren't who they claim to be, don't have the background they claim to have and can ruin a board. When I simply asked 47MM what his credentials were in MMA training, since he was claiming to be an expert in cross training, he refused to answer and started back pedalling. Hard.

In my experience that means he is either:

a. Trolling the board which shouldn't be easily tolerated.
b. Trying to be mysterious and aloof to make himself seem cool which is just stupid and deserves to be called out.

And yes, I am the type of person who will be confrontational with people who aren't just being themselves. I am the type of person who calls bull**** when I see it. I am not good at being politically correct. I don't think everyone should be treated with kid gloves. And I don't expect anyone to treat me any differently. I am a realist and a no-nonsense kind of guy. Some people love me for it, others hate me for it. I'm fine with that.

But I certainly don't do any belt waving...trust me, that's the LAST thing you will see me doing! I get my ass handed to me on a regular basis by my instructors and training partners, I have a very good sense of myself and who I am and what my capabilities are. I don't overplay myself, but I don't underplay myself either. I think my self awareness is very grounded and this is why I have no problem calling out someone else because if you want to do the same to me then please do....you might even be right.

So Miticis, if you would rather listem to someone who may be completely full of **** than someone who is willing to at least give their credentials then good luck in your training...I am not the person you should be learning from.

[Joemoplata]

And the whole time 47MM is sitting back rubbing his hands laughing like Mr Burns at the controvery and drama he has now brought to the forum.

So this is my last post concerning this issue...

I choose not to feed the trolls.

Back to the topics at hand.

[souldrum71]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Then, no offense, you are naive and gullable.

And I can send you PM's for further discussions in a more sincere structure.

I think I'd rather be naive and gullible than an admitted liar (per your own words in the Martial Arts Experience thread).

No thanks on the PMs. I've given you the benefit of the doubt in the past, but I couldn't possibly imagine having a 'sincere' discussion with you now. Have fun living the remainder of your life in fantasy land.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Joemoplata

I disagree...this is a Martial Arts forum. I want to hear from people with experience and knowledge, someone who is a fraud or a troll needs to be exposed and pushed off the forum.

I'm surprised that you guys are so willing to let somebody who can't prove that they have ever even stepped onto a mat join in on a conversation about things that so many of us put our own blood and sweat into.

In my academy, and where I teach you put all your cheap talk aside once you bow and step onto the mat. You are expected to put everything you have onto that mat and if you can't do it then you either learn to or you never come back.

We don't tolerate frauds, or hacks, or talkers. We value action and heart....and if 47MM can't show that he has either than he gets no break from me.

This is what I would expect from anyone else involved in Martial Arts.

It is your right to disagree...hence that you almost have the topic of the thread.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Joemoplata

Again, completely irrelevant to the topic. Why are you always trying to steer the conversation away from fighting? What are you avoiding? ?

You know what I find strange? That you say this is off-topic, when you don't completely understand the topic of the thread.

Originally Posted by Joemoplata

Why can't you ever actually finish a conversation about fighting?

Do you think that the martial arts is all about fighting?

[complete]

I'm sorry to do this to a very popular post but it's gotten off topic too much and starts to become (if not already) personal attacks. Therefore, this thread is closed.