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Philosophical DiscussionDo you have a philosophical view to martial arts styles, training, etc. ?
A coworker and I were talking at lunch about the decline of good customer service. I likened it to the concept of fast food: we want to pay less for things, and this seems to correlate directly to the decline of good customer service in the more fast paced service industries. I suggested that I would be willing to pay more for better service, my friend and I lamented together in the fact that this still didn’t guarantee good service. Eventually the conversation arrived at the conclusion that it wasn’t just service people providing bad customer service, but the general lack of respect coming from the common person.
We have all been treated with a snide remark, or uncaring attitude while standing in line for a burger or from a waiter, and we have all seen others abuse (if not done it once or twice ourselves) the service person that is there to assist us. To me, it boils down to a matter of respect, and the diminishing capacity to hold it. We discussed who’s responsibility we thought it was to teach the concept of respect to us in the first place; our parents, our schools, our peers, our co-workers, our belief system (religious and not) were all possibilities, on none we could really agree, except that it was a concept that should be learned early.
Seeing as how respect is an important concept in the practice of martial arts, this is why I bring the subject up and pose these questions to you:
Does anyone else perceive a decline of respect, both in service and interpersonal relationships? Why do you think this is?
Where did you learn the concept of respect, and what does that govern?
If a thread posing this question already exists, then by all means, pass it up, but if it doesn't... please comment.
I do not think there could be a different answer to your question then PARENTS. Parents are who teach Respect!! IT is not my job to teach it in class. I try to help parents with there kids but it falls on the parents!
I agree as well; my parents are teachers by vocation, and this has been their argument for years, and yet it seems as if the sole responcibility of teaching respect to their pupils falls to them more and more often.
My parents started teaching respect by showing it to me, themselves, and others from the very begining, and it is still an issue we talk about even as I am an adult.
But I still thought it was an issue worth discussing.
I agree some people don't have parents and then it does fall on teachers, parents, coaches. We all have to understand a lot of people do not have families. 55% is the nations average of divorces that is a true fact and scary. Unsure how old everyone is but I am 28 with 3 kids and been married for 7 years. Marriage isn't easy but it is worth it!!
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Pain teaches respect.
No, not really. Unless the respect is already there it only teaches fear.
Gotta agree with the parents holding the responsibility on this one. I believe more and more parents are abdicating this responsibilty. Not that I think being a parent is easy work, but its the most important job anyone could have.
The sissification of society has taught folks that all pain is necessarily 'bad.'
Sadly I agree with you, the whole PC (political correctness) movement has caused allot of people to sugar coat life. Sheltering a kid from real life doesn't help them mentally or emotionally. But, pain doesn't teach disciple or respect. Pain only teaches a kid to be afraid and to use fear on those who are "weaker." Pain isn't bad but pain without understanding where its coming from or why its there only teaches hatred...
Kind of a double edge sword, we get stronger from adversity but too much pressure can make us crack...
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I am a teacher by profession and a parent of two. I agree that teaching respect to children start from home, with the parents. Modeling respects to your kids in your actions and words is utmost important in their early years. Children pick up a lot by watching parents interaction with other people. They pick up bad words and negative attitudes by watching other kids their age at the nursery and playground.
As a teacher, I notice students nowadays hold less respects for their teachers. At least to the extend that I held respects for all the teachers that had taught me over the years. It goes back to their parents actually. Sometimes, we teachers do call parents to school to discuss their children's misbehaviour but at times I was not surprise that the parents who turn up at the school office are not respectable themselves. Some come in verbally abusive, can't hold a discussion in an orderly manner, blame the environment, teachers and their children's friends instead of accepting the responsibility of educating the children on their shoulders. We as teachers are bored and tired already with the blame game. If a child misbehave, their teachers have failed in educating him. If you at home have your hands full with three children, a teacher on average teaches 5 classes of 40 children, that 200 children. Apart from imparting knowledge in various subjects they are teaching, do you think a teacher have enough time to pay personal attention to individual student with problems? Parents spend more hours with their children in a day to handle this responsibility. Remember, teachers are also ordinary parents with their own family problems at home.
I am a teacher by profession and a parent of two. I agree that teaching respect to children start from home, with the parents. Modeling respects to your kids in your actions and words is utmost important in their early years. Children pick up a lot by watching parents interaction with other people. They pick up bad words and negative attitudes by watching other kids their age at the nursery and playground.
As a teacher, I notice students nowadays hold less respects for their teachers. At least to the extend that I held respects for all the teachers that had taught me over the years. It goes back to their parents actually. Sometimes, we teachers do call parents to school to discuss their children's misbehaviour but at times I was not surprise that the parents who turn up at the school office are not respectable themselves. Some come in verbally abusive, can't hold a discussion in an orderly manner, blame the environment, teachers and their children's friends instead of accepting the responsibility of educating the children on their shoulders. We as teachers are bored and tired already with the blame game. If a child misbehave, their teachers have failed in educating him. If you at home have your hands full with three children, a teacher on average teaches 5 classes of 40 children, that 200 children. Apart from imparting knowledge in various subjects they are teaching, do you think a teacher have enough time to pay personal attention to individual student with problems? Parents spend more hours with their children in a day to handle this responsibility. Remember, teachers are also ordinary parents with their own family problems at home.
Awesome write up... I agree 100% with everything in your statement! Pain helps learn respect you must not have kids. Pain teaches fear... Fear causes kids to pull away which makes them worse off. Pain doesn't teach anything, you want to cause pain to kids come try to do it to me
Love, Correction and sometime a spanking not for the pain. But to teach it was wrong!! I am a parent of 3 so I do have room to talk.
If you go deeper into the one liner of it maybe it's not that far off. If you think in turns of just physical or emotional pain then yea it doesn't hold much salt. But there all kinds of pain, some people consider not getting what they want is a type of pain, thinking of others before yourself can be a pain. It's a stretch but, yea there you go.
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Where does Respect come from?
Pain helps learn respect you must not have kids. Pain teaches fear... Fear causes kids to pull away which makes them worse off. Pain doesn't teach anything, you want to cause pain to kids come try to do it to me
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