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Youre assumptions included just throwing them in the fire.
I initially was assuming that one would show the hockey player how to operate the car just as one would show the racer how to put on the pads and explain the rules. I would atleast have given them a fighting chance. And with a little bit of knowledge youre whole situation is debunked.
And no merely surviving the beating hockey would inflict doesnt make anyone an athelete, my rules already explained what I'm looking for...however the fact that he couldnt survive such a thing is frowned upon.
We could change it to a tennis player and a bowler, what kind of asinine situation would you concoct to prove your point?
It nothing to do with learning how to operate the car, it's having the skill to make it move. The control you need is so fine that it takes years of experience to be able to make it do a whole race.
O.k, this isn't really getting us anywhere, what would you define and a sportsman being to compete at a resonable level in another sport?
Hold on, I just realised I've passed to 500 posts mark! Nice!
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
It nothing to do with learning how to operate the car, it's having the skill to make it move. The control you need is so fine that it takes years of experience to be able to make it do a whole race.
O.k, this isn't really getting us anywhere, what would you define and a sportsman being to compete at a resonable level in another sport?
Hold on, I just realised I've passed to 500 posts mark! Nice!
Ahaha, congratulations, welcome to to the club. And I agree, since when did surviving a contact sport have anything to do with sports, according to your list, basketball is a sport and so is football(soccer), but neither of them are contact, and the only advantage they would have over a racer or a hockey rink, is that they're body type and training is better suited, and even then not perfect.
Ahaha, congratulations, welcome to to the club. And I agree, since when did surviving a contact sport have anything to do with sports, according to your list, basketball is a sport and so is football(soccer), but neither of them are contact, and the only advantage they would have over a racer on a hockey rink, is that they're body type and training is better suited, and even then not perfect.
Acutally, that's a good point, also most proffesional footballers seem to be the mincyest bunch of poofs you'd ever seen. Other players just have to run past them funny and they go down like a sack of bricks, rolling around on the floor like someone had poleaxed them. Imagine them playing hockey!
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
Acutally, that's a good point, also most proffesional footballers seem to be the mincyest bunch of poofs you'd ever seen. Other players just have to run past them funny and they go down like a sack of bricks, rolling around on the floor like someone had poleaxed them. Imagine them playing hockey!
ROOOONAAAAALDOOOOO, the entire Italian team, the entire Spanish team. Wow it was frustrating watching their match in the Euro. The English play with a pair, but I'm not sure if that can be said for everybody.
It nothing to do with learning how to operate the car, it's having the skill to make it move. The control you need is so fine that it takes years of experience to be able to make it do a whole race.
O.k, this isn't really getting us anywhere, what would you define and a sportsman being to compete at a resonable level in another sport?
Hold on, I just realised I've passed to 500 posts mark! Nice!
Congrats on the 500 mark.
And of course we arent getting anywhere you are arguing the merits of a system that I made up.
But you do pose a great question in what constitutes a reasonable level. I'd say high school varsity level constitutes competence at any given sport.
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Ahaha, congratulations, welcome to to the club. And I agree, since when did surviving a contact sport have anything to do with sports, according to your list, basketball is a sport and so is football(soccer), but neither of them are contact, and the only advantage they would have over a racer or a hockey rink, is that they're body type and training is better suited, and even then not perfect.
Its not the individuals themselves but the sport's requirements of those individuals that weeds them out.
And soccer and basketball are contact sports. I promise you. Tennis and volleyball would have been better examples for you to use.
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And of course we arent getting anywhere you are arguing the merits of a system that I made up.
But you do pose a great question in what constitutes a reasonable level. I'd say high school varsity level constitutes competence at any given sport.
Its not the individuals themselves but the sport's requirements of those individuals that weeds them out.
And soccer and basketball are contact sports. I promise you. Tennis and volleyball would have been better examples for you to use.
Football is nothing compared to rugby or American football. Ronaldo is I think ranked or was ranked recently, the best player in the world. And he's a pusillanimous sissy boy.
P.S. What exactly is High School Varsity Level? I don't think have of Britain have even heard of the word Varsity outside of the movies.
So how about you go to your local soccer field then stand there and let someone slide tackle you. Then go to the doctor. Then come back here.
Dude, I have very bad foot to eye coordination, so when I play football, I end up butchering the legs of people I play with. It's nothing, that doesn't make it a contact sport at all. And watch an international level football match, and you'll see the slightest touch, and the footballers will be calling for fouls.
And of course we arent getting anywhere you are arguing the merits of a system that I made up.
But you do pose a great question in what constitutes a reasonable level. I'd say high school varsity level constitutes competence at any given sport.
Fair enough, I thought you meant at world class level, I'll let you live...for now.
I guess I should have cleared that up first, my mistake.
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And soccer and basketball are contact sports. I promise you.
Not meaning to be rude, but this really did have me in stitches. Soccer is not a contact sport. But why do you see loads of people hitting the ground hard and rolling around in pain? Simple, because they are acting.
"OW, zidane poked me on my shoulder, ref, book him please, it hurts so much, I think I might die, get an ambulance, I think I see a bright light ahead of me"
"I'm not booking zidane, you still want that ambulance"?
"Nope, oddly enough, I feel all better"
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
So how about you go to your local soccer field then stand there and let someone slide tackle you. Then go to the doctor. Then come back here.
I've used to play football a lot when I was younger (mum made me, I was in my local team) and I got slide tackled all the time, still do when I have a kick around with my mates.
You fall over, you get up, it really is nothing. It's as dangerous as tripping in the park.
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
Ok, no one ever gets hurt from slide tackles. Is that really the answer youre going with?
I think you two are confusing terms... full contact sports are rugby and football...contact sports are basketball and soccer...no contact sports are tennis and volleyball.
Do you see the distinction. In full contact sports the object of the game calls for collisions of the players. In contact sports the object doesnt call for collisions but they are expected to occur when necessary (and competitors will be penalized for excessive force). In no contact sports the objective has no circumstance where the competitors would touch at all.
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Even the best of men are capable of the most disgusting evil. Just as the most evil man is capable of showing kindness.
Do not be fooled into thinking your enemy's sin is worse than yours, or that your's is better than his.
I am in no way trying to piss people off with this thread. Its a serious discussion that I've had with my friends many times and normally no one agrees with me and I expect that to be the case on this board too.
Here goes...can we stop calling every activity a sport?
Nowadays in most sports not only is athleticism a non-requirement but so is direct competition. I dont care how difficult a feat may be it doesnt make it a sport. Sure riding a bicycle for 90 miles or whatever is really hard to do, but that makes it a physical feat not a sport. Back in the day that would have been called travelling from one region to another now its a sport, uh no.
So I've made a list that regulates what can be called a sport. Only participants in these sports can be called atheletes so therefore all lists of the top 10 atheletes posted all over the web are now null and void.
Requirements to be a sport:
1. To be elite it must take athleticism.
(excluded by this rule...golf, auto racing, horse racing, bowling, badminton, shuffle boarding, archery, shooting sports, cue sports, equine sports, fishing, hunting, table tennis, darts)
2. Must include direct competition.
(excluded by this rule... everyone in #1 except table tennis, all climbing sports, equine sports except polo, cheerleading, paddle sports, board sports)
3. Stop watches alone do not determine the winner.
(excluded by this rule... all races)
4. Judges alone do not determine the winner.
(excluded by this rule...gymnastics, dancing, skating, cheerleading, board sports, diving, snyc swimming)
So my list of real sports is as follows,
Basketball, Football, Soccer, Volleyball, Tennis, Combat sports(all forms so I'm not listing everything seperately), Hockey, Rugby, Baseball (barely), Lacrosse.
Thats all of the ones I can think of that dont get excluded. Did I miss any? (clarification...did I miss any that are actually played in the western hemisphere?)
I basically agree with you on most of these things. I too have had great debates with my friends on what is and isn't a sport. My friends try to tell me that bowling and auto racing and golf are sports. I dissagree. Any activity that you can drink beer and smoke cigarettes during is not a sport to me. I've seen people getting smashed at bowling alleys, golf courses, and I'm sure that you could it if diving a car around in a circle for 200laps also. Other activities such as pool (billiards), darts, chess, etc.. are not sports. Can you see Michael Jordon running down the courts with a cigarette or a beer in hand, no. Because he is an athlete. Bowlers, golfers, etc... are not athletes. They are people who do a recreational activity.
I basically agree with you on most of these things. I too have had great debates with my friends on what is and isn't a sport. My friends try to tell me that bowling and auto racing and golf are sports. I dissagree. Any activity that you can drink beer and smoke cigarettes during is not a sport to me. I've seen people getting smashed at bowling alleys, golf courses, and I'm sure that you could it if diving a car around in a circle for 200laps also. Other activities such as pool (billiards, darts, chess, etc.. are not sports. Can you see Michael Jordon running down the courts with a cigarette or a beer in hand, no. Because he is an athlete. Bowlers, golfers, etc... are not athletes. They are people who do a recreational activity.
I guess I'm ranting now.....LOL.
Sweet! Someone is finally on my side! Three cheers to you my friend!
__________________ The name means...No matter how many times you cut him, he will never fall. My soul cutter has no name, it is merely a tool.
I'll Still Kill!
Even the best of men are capable of the most disgusting evil. Just as the most evil man is capable of showing kindness.
Do not be fooled into thinking your enemy's sin is worse than yours, or that your's is better than his.
Ok, no one ever gets hurt from slide tackles. Is that really the answer youre going with?
I think you two are confusing terms... full contact sports are rugby and football...contact sports are basketball and soccer...no contact sports are tennis and volleyball.
Do you see the distinction. In full contact sports the object of the game calls for collisions of the players. In contact sports the object doesnt call for collisions but they are expected to occur when necessary (and competitors will be penalized for excessive force). In no contact sports the objective has no circumstance where the competitors would touch at all.
Collisions?
"Did you see Walcott and Fabregas collide with each other"
"Yes, it reminded me of a hockey match"
The other thing is all sportsman are different, I think (going back to the bizzare example of a hockey playing F1 driver) that someone like Robert Kubica would fair better playing hockey than Theo Walcott. You can't just say "all these footballers are sportsmen because they could survive playing another sport" because they couldn't. Everyone is different.
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
What is a sport...? Be warned I'm ranting.
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