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Any activity that you can drink beer and smoke cigarettes during is not a sport to me.
Can you see Michael Jordon running down the courts with a cigarette or a beer in hand, no. Because he is an athlete.
Excellent! So you think F-1 drivers are atheletes as well then! Good man!
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
Collisions?
"Did you see Walcott and Fabregas collide with each other"
"Yes, it reminded me of a hockey match"
The other thing is all sportsman are different, I think (going back to the bizzare example of a hockey playing F1 driver) that someone like Robert Kubica would fair better playing hockey than Theo Walcott. You can't just say "all these footballers are sportsmen because they could survive playing another sport" because they couldn't. Everyone is different.
I didnt thats why they can be called atheletes. You are called an athelete based upont the sport you play. If you race then the competition is against a stopwatch not actually the other drivers. So therefore the drivers are not atheletes.
Personally I would give drivers way more credit if they were driving normal cars. Not some of the most advanced machinest this side of NASA. I mean I got my car up to 140 MPH and I only have 200 horsepower. I guess that means I'm pretty damn awesome behind the wheel.
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I didnt thats why they can be called atheletes. You are called an athelete based upont the sport you play. If you race then the competition is against a stopwatch not actually the other drivers. So therefore the drivers are not atheletes.
Exactly, F-1 driver aren't against a stopwatch and directly compete with each other.
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Originally Posted by Zaraki Kenpachi
Personally I would give drivers way more credit if they were driving normal cars. Not some of the most advanced machinest this side of NASA. I mean I got my car up to 140 MPH and I only have 200 horsepower. I guess that means I'm pretty damn awesome behind the wheel.
I know, I'd be impressed if hockey players used toothpicks instead of those great big sticks, and if astronauts got into space using electric fans.
As I've already said, it's more impressive that they do use these cars.
F1 cars travel with a top speed of around 210mph, which they can reach in about 10 seconds (they reach 140mph in around 4 secconds). They can take corners ridiculously fast and they brake bloody quickly as well. I was just throwing that speed in there because I don't know the average speed the cars are travelling at when they go off the track and hit the barriers.
Also, have you seen F1 drivers drive normal cars? It's something else I tell you. They really are in a different league.
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
I didnt thats why they can be called atheletes. You are called an athelete based upont the sport you play. If you race then the competition is against a stopwatch not actually the other drivers. So therefore the drivers are not atheletes.
Personally I would give drivers way more credit if they were driving normal cars. Not some of the most advanced machinest this side of NASA. I mean I got my car up to 140 MPH and I only have 200 horsepower. I guess that means I'm pretty damn awesome behind the wheel.
If they were facing the stopwatch, you'd put a driver on a track one at a time, a lot more safe. And your second point is just silly, no offence, it's like me saying, "Oh you can jump from this building to that one? Well I can jump from my bed to my brothers bed, and that's pretty good since I don't have the muscles for it."
Exactly, F-1 driver aren't against a stopwatch and directly compete with each other.
I know, I'd be impressed if hockey players used toothpicks instead of those great big sticks, and if astronauts got into space using electric fans.
As I've already said, it's more impressive that they do use these cars.
F1 cars travel with a top speed of around 210mph, which they can reach in about 10 seconds (they reach 140mph in around 4 secconds). They can take corners ridiculously fast and they brake bloody quickly as well. I was just throwing that speed in there because I don't know the average speed the cars are travelling at when they go off the track and hit the barriers.
Also, have you seen F1 drivers drive normal cars? It's something else I tell you. They really are in a different league.
Exactly, F-1 driver aren't against a stopwatch and directly compete with each other.
I know, I'd be impressed if hockey players used toothpicks instead of those great big sticks, and if astronauts got into space using electric fans.
As I've already said, it's more impressive that they do use these cars.
F1 cars travel with a top speed of around 210mph, which they can reach in about 10 seconds (they reach 140mph in around 4 secconds). They can take corners ridiculously fast and they brake bloody quickly as well. I was just throwing that speed in there because I don't know the average speed the cars are travelling at when they go off the track and hit the barriers.
Also, have you seen F1 drivers drive normal cars? It's something else I tell you. They really are in a different league.
Umm, and how do you measure speed? Distance over time isnt it? Isnt the whole point of a race to see who can do something the fastest? How do they determine who won the race? Its not who's car hit the highest MPH, but who's car ran the fastest time. Sorry guys. Rule #1 thru Rule #3 still stand.
And of course I was kidding when I was talking about my own driving. It was in a straight line and required very little effort on my part.
F-1 driving takes skill and talent but not athleticism. The car is doing way more work than the person driving it. Unlike a tennis racket or hockey stick. Simple tools shouldnt be compared to advanced machinery.
By the way I said I would give them more credit if they used regular cars but that still wouldnt make them atheletes. It would just make their fringe sport more appealing and easier to watch.
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Even the best of men are capable of the most disgusting evil. Just as the most evil man is capable of showing kindness.
Do not be fooled into thinking your enemy's sin is worse than yours, or that your's is better than his.
Umm, and how do you measure speed? Distance over time isnt it? Isnt the whole point of a race to see who can do something the fastest? How do they determine who won the race? Its not who's car hit the highest MPH, but who's car ran the fastest time. Sorry guys. Rule #1 thru Rule #3 still stand.
And of course I was kidding when I was talking about my own driving. It was in a straight line and required very little effort on my part.
F-1 driving takes skill and talent but not athleticism. The car is doing way more work than the person driving it. Unlike a tennis racket or hockey stick. Simple tools shouldnt be compared to advanced machinery.
By the way I said I would give them more credit if they used regular cars but that still wouldnt make them atheletes. It would just make their fringe sport more appealing and easier to watch.
Your body has to be accustomed and trained to withstand the speed, or your screwed. You have to work under extreme pressure. To be honest, I don't think you know enough about the sport to make accusations upon it (By all means, I'm not saying I do), I reckon you should give it a go if you have a chance.
Umm, and how do you measure speed? Distance over time isnt it? Isnt the whole point of a race to see who can do something the fastest? How do they determine who won the race? Its not who's car hit the highest MPH, but who's car ran the fastest time. Sorry guys. Rule #1 thru Rule #3 still stand.
Good lord, please get educated about F-1 driving before you comment. There are no time trials involved in F1 during the actual race itself. The winner of a race in F1 is whichever driver crosses the finish line first. If it was a time trial then a driver who started at the back of the grid and made their way to 2nd place would win the race, since they did the same distance in a shorter amount of time.
While you could argue that the fastest driver wins, that is not always the case, in monacco usually the most careful driver wins, in brazil, usually the best wet weather driver wins. Don't even get me started on things like pit stops.
Cars have to overtake other cars so it is not like they are doing time trials while all on the track at the same time. One of the reasons Lewis Hamilton is such a good driver is because he's so good at overtaking, especially off the line.
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Originally Posted by Zaraki Kenpachi
F-1 driving takes skill and talent but not athleticism. The car is doing way more work than the person driving it. Unlike a tennis racket or hockey stick. Simple tools shouldnt be compared to advanced machinery.
Why not? The hockey stick and tennis racquet are still propelling the puck or ball much faster than the person could achieve on their own.
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Originally Posted by Zaraki Kenpachi
By the way I said I would give them more credit if they used regular cars but that still wouldnt make them atheletes. It would just make their fringe sport more appealing and easier to watch.
I was going to post a similar thing to GoddeBPM did in this article:Health and Fitness - The Human Engine
How on earth would it make the sport more appealing? F1 is hardly a fringe sport.
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
Good lord, please get educated about F-1 driving before you comment. There are no time trials involved in F1 during the actual race itself. The winner of a race in F1 is whichever driver crosses the finish line first. If it was a time trial then a driver who started at the back of the grid and made their way to 2nd place would win the race, since they did the same distance in a shorter amount of time.
While you could argue that the fastest driver wins, that is not always the case, in monacco usually the most careful driver wins, in brazil, usually the best wet weather driver wins. Don't even get me started on things like pit stops.
Cars have to overtake other cars so it is not like they are doing time trials while all on the track at the same time. One of the reasons Lewis Hamilton is such a good driver is because he's so good at overtaking, especially off the line.
Why not? The hockey stick and tennis racquet are still propelling the puck or ball much faster than the person could achieve on their own.
I was going to post a similar thing to GoddeBPM did in this article:Health and Fitness - The Human Engine
How on earth would it make the sport more appealing? F1 is hardly a fringe sport.
Lets be consistent. If being able to survive a hockey game isnt what makes hockey players atheletes than being able to withstand the Gs in a car arent going to make race car drivers atheletes.
I cant believe I am arguing with martial artists on the athleticism required to drive a car. It makes me wonder if you guys really train at all.
And by the way the racket/stick is only transferring the kinetic energy the human put into it. Not taking a push on a gas pedal and creating a thousand horsepower (I just threw out a number, sue me). To compare the two is just ridic.
Oy.
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I'll Still Kill!
Even the best of men are capable of the most disgusting evil. Just as the most evil man is capable of showing kindness.
Do not be fooled into thinking your enemy's sin is worse than yours, or that your's is better than his.
Lets be consistent. If being able to survive a hockey game isnt what makes hockey players atheletes than being able to withstand the Gs in a car arent going to make race car drivers atheletes.
But being built for playing hockey and therefore being able to survive a hockey match is what makes hockey players athletes, and so being able to withstand Gs in an F1 cars is what makes F1 drivers atheletes.
Just because we don't constantly talk about training all the time doesn't mean we're not martial artists. The original post which started the thread wasn't about anything martial arts related.
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
Can we stop this now, it's getting very silly. Tell you what, I think you're entitled to your view of what does and what doesn't make a sportmans even if some of us (including myself) don't get it. Everyone has different views, can we just agree to disagree?
I don't know why, maybe I'm just bored, maybe because I've been drinking. Cheers.
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Ah, Steven Seagull, I bet nobody's thought of that before.
What is a sport...? Be warned I'm ranting.
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